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    Ventilating Dehumidifier or ERV in central IN

    What do you guys think? For the central Indiana climate, does an ERV or a ventilating dehumidifier make more sense?

    In May we had new HVAC systems installed. One system upstairs and a separate system downstairs (ground level). Humidity level downstairs (per the tstat) has been running in the 50s. During some of the very humid summer days, we saw it creep into the low 60s. Upstairs is usually 8-10% less, so usually in the 40s.

    The house is over a closed crawlspace that has a dehum in it set for 45%. It's just a relatively cheap portable model, so not sure how accurate that is.

    We finally got the blower door test done and it came back around 3 air changes per hour, so we're talking about adding mechanical ventilation to the downstairs system. My installer said he's done both ERV and ventilating dehum, but far more of the latter.

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    ________ .:. ERV

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    ____ Your climate is obviously Predominantly Heating

    A/C Set-up: 360 CFM/ Ton

    Ventilation Set-up: you may wish to investigate Demand Controlled Ventilation
    https://svach.lbl.gov/demand-controlled-ventilation/
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    An ERV requires a dehumidifier to maintain 50%RH because the ERV only removes about 40% of the moisture. The ERV does reduce the dehumidifier load by 40% as long as the exhaust air is <50%RH. The return on investment in most homes makes using a whole house dehumidifier with the make-up fresh air ventilation more practical.

    Check out the Santa Fe ultra with Merv 13 fresh air filtering for most home applications.

    The pressurization of make up fresh air on a home slows infiltration of soil gases and unfiltered outside air.

    Keep us posted,

    Regards Teddy Bear
    Bear Rules: Keep our home <50% RH summer, controls mites/mold and very comfortable.
    Provide 60-100 cfm of fresh air when occupied to purge indoor pollutants and keep window dry during cold weather. T-stat setup/setback +8 hrs. saves energy
    Use +Merv 10 air filter. -Don't forget the "Golden Rule"

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan sw fl View Post
    Ventilation Set-up: you may wish to investigate Demand Controlled Ventilation
    https://svach.lbl.gov/demand-controlled-ventilation/
    Very interesting, I'll discuss this with my installer, thank you.


    Quote Originally Posted by teddy bear View Post
    An ERV requires a dehumidifier to maintain 50%RH because the ERV only removes about 40% of the moisture. The ERV does reduce the dehumidifier load by 40% as long as the exhaust air is <50%RH. The return on investment in most homes makes using a whole house dehumidifier with the make-up fresh air ventilation more practical.

    Check out the Santa Fe ultra with Merv 13 fresh air filtering for most home applications.

    The pressurization of make up fresh air on a home slows infiltration of soil gases and unfiltered outside air.

    Keep us posted,

    Regards Teddy Bear
    Makes total sense and jives with some of the things my installer was telling me. I'm pretty sure he mentioned they use Sante Fe so easy enough there.

    Is it fair to assume that a Sante Fe style system can run as ventilation only (no dehum) in the drier winter months?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aegwyn11 View Post
    Very interesting, I'll discuss this with my installer, thank you.




    Makes total sense and jives with some of the things my installer was telling me. I'm pretty sure he mentioned they use Sante Fe so easy enough there.

    Is it fair to assume that a Sante Fe style system can run as ventilation only (no dehum) in the drier winter months?
    The dehumidifier and ventilation are independent functions with separated controls.

    Keep us posted.

    Regards Teddy Bear
    Bear Rules: Keep our home <50% RH summer, controls mites/mold and very comfortable.
    Provide 60-100 cfm of fresh air when occupied to purge indoor pollutants and keep window dry during cold weather. T-stat setup/setback +8 hrs. saves energy
    Use +Merv 10 air filter. -Don't forget the "Golden Rule"

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