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    Question Using Stay Brite reconnect joint.

    Have you ever taken apart a brazed joint and reconnected it with Stay Brite? Just curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by volts10 View Post
    Have you ever taken apart a brazed joint and reconnected it with Stay Brite? Just curious.
    Your going to have to get the silfloss hot enough to soften probably 3X the flow point of Stay Brite #8

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    Yes but why if it is really not necessary. The problem is two different filler metals, poor cleaning ability, lack of full filling of joint depth and potential leaks in the future. Just my opinion, I don't re-braze or re-solder joints if there is a choice

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    You have to get the joint hot enough to pull apart why not get it that hot again and cap with 15%.

    I love staybrite 8 but I only use it on bare copper super clean joints.


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    Quote Originally Posted by volts10 View Post
    Have you ever taken apart a brazed joint and reconnected it with Stay Brite? Just curious.
    Harris says in their literture on stay brite that it can be used to fill pin holes in braze which means it will wet on braze but I really think it would be way easier and more dependable to rebraze an already brazed joint.

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    I know it will bond to silfloss the issue is cleaning it enough so it will bond!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pecmsg View Post
    I know it will bond to silfloss the issue is cleaning it enough so it will bond!
    The path that the freon takes,from the inside of the system all the way out here into the atmosphere is stroon w/ debris. It is called oil,at least. How do you clean it up enough,to be able to get the new solder to resoldered?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pecmsg View Post
    I know it will bond to silfloss the issue is cleaning it enough so it will bond!
    Exactly I think it would almost be impossible. A wire brush in a drill would be your best bet but even that wouldn't get into all the rough areas left by braze

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    Quote Originally Posted by TechmanTerry View Post
    The path that the freon takes,from the inside of the system all the way out here into the atmosphere is stroon w/ debris. It is called oil,at least. How do you clean it up enough,to be able to get the new solder to resoldered?
    Thats the beauty of brazing, by the time its hot enough its clean enough. There is no oil on a 900 degree pipe.


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    StayBright #8 melts at 430*f. At what temp does the new flux burn?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TechmanTerry View Post
    The path that the freon takes,from the inside of the system all the way out here into the atmosphere is stroon w/ debris. It is called oil,at least. How do you clean it up enough,to be able to get the new solder to resoldered?
    Exactly

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    Quote Originally Posted by TechmanTerry View Post
    StayBright #8 melts at 430*f. At what temp does the new flux burn?
    I thought it was closer to 600* but what do I know

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    Quote Originally Posted by pecmsg View Post
    I thought it was closer to 600* but what do I know
    As far as im concerned your the aficionado for staybrite8.

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    I was wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by pecmsg View Post
    I thought it was closer to 600* but what do I know
    I was thinking around 600 as well for paste...the liquid flux is active up to 700. I use it to solder stainless and regular steel because you have to get steel hotter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pecmsg View Post
    I thought it was closer to 600* but what do I know
    No, per literature ..it's about 430F...

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    Stay silv...... 45% silver. I use that anywhere critical.
    Especially old failed solder or brazes or somewhere that's been broken like a condenser.
    It's also fantastic for repairing condensers without having to remove fins.

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    Big difference between Stay Brite and 45%

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    Quote Originally Posted by pecmsg View Post
    Big difference between Stay Brite and 45%
    Yes very big difference. I'll occasionally use stay brite on 134 cap tube systems inside a kitchen. Especially since everything there is covered in grease.
    But any system capable of more pressure I won't waste my time or the customers money.
    Been seeing it alot on new r290 systems. The solder joint's keep cracking. And it's a total pain to braze properly after the factory soldered the joints lol

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    The real question is Why?
    Officially, Down for the count

    YOU HAVE TO GET OFF YOUR ASS TO GET ON YOUR FEET

    I know enough to know, I don't know enough
    Why is it that those who complain the most contribute the least?
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