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    Confused information for newby on flaring and swaging tools

    Hi,

    I am a sparky who is training to get my hvac/refrig licence and was looking for suggestions for a good flare and swage tool from people who have been in the business for years. I work in the supermarket style of refrig work.

    cheers

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    I'm a fan of the spin flare and swadging tools.
    Haven't had a leak yet from the spin flare tool yet.

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    I personally use the spin type with block. Ive heard guys complain of not having enough room to spin the handle but I havent had many issues.

    If you have the extra money there is one made by hilmar I believe that has a gun type flaring and swedging tool. It expands the end of the piping with whatever attachment piece you want.

    Looked awesome but more expensive


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    Will you be using soft or hard copper ?

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    For swedging I use the Rigid expander

    For flares Imperial Eastman

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    Buy an orbital flare only! If you have the money I would suggest hilmor compact sewage kit as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by VTP99 View Post
    Will you be using soft or hard copper ?
    I didnt think you could work hard copper without first annealing it so technically isnt it all soft copper?


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    Smile imperial

    Quote Originally Posted by sparkofrizzy View Post
    Hi,

    I am a sparky who is training to get my hvac/refrig licence and was looking for suggestions for a good flare and swage tool from people who have been in the business for years. I work in the supermarket style of refrig work.

    cheers
    Imperial brand is best copper working tools in the business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thatguy View Post
    I didn’t think you could work hard copper without first annealing it so technically isn’t it all soft copper?


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    You can bend hard drawn copper with the correct bender.
    I'm not sure on the swedging though never tried that.

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    For swaging copper tubing I had a hydraulic tube expander bought from Ebay. Recently I had a chance to use it and I love it. It's very easy to operate it, saving you time to look for your copper couplings lol
    Last edited by kdang; 04-21-2019 at 12:11 AM.

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    My Navac battery operated flaring tool arrived yesterday so I had to make some flares immediately. WOW! We have a big mini-split job coming up so I could justify the cost.

    I don’t like my Hilmor flaring tool as it takes great care to properly align everything. My old Ridgid was easy to use but the clutch got so worn it had to be reset after every turn of the handle.
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    I have the cps flaring tool and its awesome . Has two separate handles and also option to hook up ur drill to it which if u have the malco 1/4 5/16 dual chuck it fits right into it. Can flare a 4 zone mini condenser in less than 10 minutes. I use the hilmor hydraulic swager and have never had an issue with it. If u are swaging smaller lines Im particularly 3/8 u just have to swage half way (8-10 pulls) release and turn slightly and finish swage to keep from splitting the line


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    Quote Originally Posted by TCS1 View Post
    I would suggest hilmor compact sewage kit as well
    They make plumbing tools, too?
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    Rothenberger makes awesome HVAC tools.

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    I have used my hilmor hydraulic swager on type L copper plumbing pipe for a hydronic baseboard job by annealling the end of the pipe. Just get it red hot and quench it in water. Instant soft copper.

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    I still have my trusty Imperial Eastman Flare Block & Yoke from 1969,and a small IMP tubing cutter.

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