Pretty comparable units, Heil probably has a better warranty with their replacement pledge. Key is best install.

 

Heil DX1400 vs Lennox XC15

I currently have an 8 year old Lennox that the compressor seized. I am looking to replace the AC unit with either a Lennox (the XC15) or a Heil DX1400. I am looking for a dependable unit that is quiet and will last. Any suggestions?

 

Lennox vs Heil

I currently have an 8 year old Lennox that the compressor seized. I am looking to replace the AC unit with either a Lennox (the XC15) or a Heil DX1400. I am looking for a dependable unit that is quiet and will last. Any suggestions?

It looks to me like Amana and Heil, could be made by the same manufacturer. How many companies actually make units and then brand them.

 

Heil is junk. Amana, rheem/ruud, trane. Much better success with these brands.
The amana has a lifetime compressor warranty. Follow the link.

http://www.amana-hac.com/Home/Products/AirConditioningSystems/14SEERASX14/tabid/279/Default.aspx

 

Heil is

So what trouble have you had with Heils higher end units?

 

The Heil product has been called a Carrier clone. I think they make a respectable product which we have a few installed with no problems to date.

 

Amana and Heil are not made by the same companies.

 

Hiel is a Tempstar prodcut, same thing we use for Kenmore. A great warranty. ICP makes the rest. (pretty much) If you want more info find ICP on line or www.gotempstar.com

 

ICP makes the rest of what?

 

ICP?? What does this stand for?

 

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International comfort products

 

International Comfort Products

 

Just how much different can comparable efficiency condensing units really be? There is a coil which is manufactured from tubing and fin stock supplied mostly by the same manufacturer. There is a compressor, one of three brands usually of the same type.l There is a fan and motor and there are some controls, again, usually from the same vendors. Put it all together and wrap some wire, mesh or louvered grill work around it and you have a bunch of clones or one another with different name tags on them.

Compare actual efficiency ratings of complete systems, indoor and outdoor components. Compare warranties and features (very quiet if needed, dehumidification features, better for salt corrosion etc.) and then be sure to have a qualified contractor doing the installation and set up.

 

From one brand to the next. could be several hundred, to several thousand BTU difference.

Have to look at more then just the efficiency rating.

A 13 SEER 5 ton brand X, may be 57.6MBH, while brand Y's 5 ton 13 SEER, may only be 52.6.4MBH.

 

Thank you, EverthingAir, you confirmed what I thought. Can you explain to me why Heil says there DX1400 is Seer 14 and Lennox says "up to" 16 for there XC15. I suspect that the actual effeciency depends on more than the AC unit itself. Is that true? I am also thinking that at the end of the day there are no guarantees of true performance except that having the "energy star" means that you are buying a product that is above many others?
Your help is appreciated.

 

There are some companies that do a test out which determines with reasonable accuracy the installed system performance. Technically it is a snap shot of performance at a give set of conditions.

 

Everythingair

On that note, I was curious. Do any manufacturers make their own coils?

 

I'd say most or all do. I've watched them made in Rheem's Ft. Smith factory, Carrier & ICP's Indy factory. Indoor coils aren't made in Tyler but the Spine Fin coils were done there. I was in Armstrong's old Bellevue plant, they were shipping in coils from Heatcraft/ADP for the outdoor units. The evaps are made in ADP's plant. UT makes A & N coils in Mexico as does York. Not sure if outdoor unit coils are made in Collierville or Mexico. Haven't seen a Lennox evap coil lately to see if they are made by ADP or Lennox.

 

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The Heil equipment has the Same compressor , and Hopefully R410a ( Puron )
refrigerant , it's just that the quality of the companies that would install the Carrier System are probably better