Wanted to add question to Op's topic...
Is it true that Trane and American standard are the same product? Have been told that twice now...confused.


I am also looking at all three...unplanned expense,but want to make the correct choice before dishing out the money...

 

We sell a lot of Carrier Infinities,use the search function on this site and see what other homeowners think of theirs.

Trane and Am Std,basically the same .

 

I had the same exact choice. I picked Trane's XL16i 3-ton HP with XV90 80,000 BTU furnace dual fuel system over Carrier's compable system. This was partly out of biasness and narrow-mindedness that admittingly isn't the safest way to choose equipment. I had an _ancient_ GE Weathertron (late 1960's) package system to replace. After doing research a couple years back, I learned that Trane bought the Weathertron line from GE. Getting 36+ years of service out of the Weathertron leaned me towards sticking with whoever inherited the Weathertron line. I looked at the Carrier and Lennox lines, but kept coming back to Trane. No real reason except I had Trane on my mind and saw lots of folks on here agreed they were good. By the same token, I saw a few (very few mind you) posts that didn't like Carrier. I took those with a grain of salt because I also saw most posters on here claim that the choice between Trane, Carrier, or Lennox was not nearly as important as getting a great contractor. That being said, I concentrated on finding a darn good contractor and decided not to try to impart my biasness of brand on the contractors. As it turns out, the contractor I liked the best and felt most comfortable with, sold mostly Trane units.

The equipment is being installed next week. I'll let you know, if you're interested, how everything works out.

 

With pakage units the Infinity is tops,good luk!lol

 

Even though Trane and AS are the same. The Trane XLI system when installed as a system has a better warranty than the AS Allegiance series.

 

That being said, I concentrated on finding a darn good contractor and decided not to try to impart my biasness of brand on the contractors.

Interesting. One contractor told me my 14 inch (I think) ducts were not large enough for a 2 ton unit. The other two did not mention that. Should I have those changed along with new unit? My house is only 10 years old....

 

14 x 8 duct? Sounds too small. Unless its really really short.

 

The Trane would be a good choice here. The XL16I Heat Pump is one awesome monster...

 

Thoughts on one I found on Ebay?....

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Carrier-2-t...er-full-warr_W0QQitemZ120126557524QQihZ002QQcategoryZ115952QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

Thoughts on one I found on Ebay?....

So now you think your going to find someone qualified to install and service that unit?

I think your asking for more trouble then what you can imagine if you buy it, and have someone install it.

Never buy a top of the line over the internet, and expect to get a break on the install, and have it done right for cheap. ( or any line )
Takes training to install them right, and to know if its working right.

 

So now you think your going to find someone qualified to install and service that unit?


Why couldn't I ?
If I found a great deal on a unit online or in store...then are you saying I could not find a contractor to install correctly?

This is the first time I have ever had to replace a unit and wanted to look at all options.
I know a good contractor is by far the most important.

But why should it matter where I purchase a replacement? Confused....

 

Because you might find it difficult to find anybody trained on the Carrier 2 stage that will install equipment they didn't sell.

The Infinity control isn't like a normal thermostat.


Maybe you want to call around and ask the local companies if they will install it for you if you buy it off of ebay. Before you buy it.

Then asl them if they will provide 1 year labor warranty. Or will they charge you for any calls that you might need if there is a warranty part issue.

 

Better read into ebay a little better, might be a three phase unit. maybe hard to get warranty honored also.

 

To bad you can't mix units and get away with it, because there is no better furnace on earth than the RUUD Mod. and there is no better condenser on earth than the 23 seer Maytag I don't care what anyone says here this is just the facts. A for as an evaporator coil they all suck and begin leaking way to soon, now you wanted the truth I just gave you the truth.

 

Home Depot /Trane specialist

Trane users,
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Call for price information.800.000.0000

 

Do you buy your eggs at the grocery store and take them to a diner and have them cooked ? Most reputable contractors wont do it. They don't know where the unit came from..is it stolen ? has it been open to the atmosphere? Has it been dropped ? No one I know of would EVER think about honoring any kind of warranty with that scenario.

 

What manufacturer, except in these unit replacement warranties, ever asks questions about the installation? For years we sold systems made up of 2 brands. Key was the coil matched the outdoor unit. The A/C didn't care if a different brand was pushing the air over the evap, just that we were moving 400 CFM/ton. Both had same width equipment so the cased coil fit fine over/under the other brand furnace.

When you get into high SEER and variable speed SEER ratings you can't do that. And the Mod stat wouldn't control the IQ drive and vice-versa so you couldn't do it anyway.

I just filled out compressor warranties for 3 different brands. No place in the form (or online for A-S) did it ask for anything but the outdoor unit info. They didn't ask what coil, nothing. Be nice if the warranty was voided if the evap didn't match but so far nobody has done it.

 

I just filled out compressor warranties for 3 different brands. No place in the form (or online for A-S) did it ask for anything but the outdoor unit info. They didn't ask what coil, nothing. Be nice if the warranty was voided if the evap didn't match but so far nobody has done it.

It's a sell boxes world, it would kill a lot of mfg. sales if they got serious on that and you
know they realize that, probably never happen.

 

I don't know if they check for sure.
But the quote papers I get from R E Michaels, says they now need both the condenser and evap model numbers for compressor warranty.