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    Quote Originally Posted by AC Hacker View Post
    Did this when I first bought it, pulled to 500 and have only used it 7 times since.
    So how many times have you changed the oil?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AC Hacker View Post
    yes , it still had a minute of pressure.
    But is there a low pressure switch? If not the low side could easily be running in a vacuum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R600a View Post
    So how many times have you changed the oil?

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    every job once before I start

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    But is there a low pressure switch? If not the low side could easily be running in a vacuum.

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    SO, the bad braze leak was on the high side at the condenser connection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AC Hacker View Post
    every job once before I start
    That should about do it but I would suggest switching to changing it when you finish because that used oil contains moisture and possibly acid that will attack the valves and make the pump loose performance over time. Also the hot oil drains much quicker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AC Hacker View Post
    SO, the bad braze leak was on the high side at the condenser connection.
    Then you should be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R600a View Post
    OP I thought I should let you know to expect some ribbing over your screen name because usually when we refer to a hack we are referring to someone who installs things incorrectly or does sloppy work

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    Im very modest and do believe I can change the screen name when I prove to myself That I wont hack it all up to s**t.
    Hence, the bad braze work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AC Hacker View Post
    Im very modest and do believe I can change the screen name when I prove to myself That I wont hack it all up to s**t.
    Hence, the bad braze work.
    Its all in fun. I would keep it. I have had a couple braze joints leak from when I started and was still trying to listen to my boss on how to braze. I learned pretty quick that he wasn't that great at it himself.

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    There is no correlation between micron level and moisture volume.

    It's more akin to a saturation pressure. You put gauges on a static system and if the pressure is at or above the pressure for the surrounding ambient - you know there is liquid refrigerant in the system - but you have no idea how much liquid refrigerant it is. Could be a pound or it could be a thousand pounds - the vapor pressure your gauge shows would be the same number in both cases.

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    I am trying to grasp how much moisture is in the system so I can determine where I think its coming from either Materials or oil or water Basically so i can convince myself that its OK to stop pulling the vacuum.

    "When they say"... 1 micron is 25,400 of an inch in the water column is that a literate measurement
    of what is in the system??? ( no clue)

    Hypothetically, If I am pulling 1100 mics for days and I know that when I reach 1000 basically all moisture is gone, I would be safe to assume that 100 mics of moisture is in material, right?
    Sooo, how much is 100 mics of moisture 1 teaspoon, 1 spec of water/oil?
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    This is bad practice in my opinion. You are changing the oil because of the possibility that is is bad. You do not want bad oil in your pump. Change the vacuum pump oil Before you put it away after each use and it will be stored with fresh oil in it - and it will be ready-to-go immediately next time.

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    every job once before I start
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    FIGURE OUT the Microns

    Micron level is just the gauge sensing the density of molecules in the environment. That correlation would be difficult to know. Also the total number of molecules in the system would be related to the system volume and the assumption that they’re equally distributed. So no it’s not really something that can be estimated, but it’s also not something that’s very important to know. Just focus on micron level and that’s all you need.
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    Where the hell is That mechanical room??? <g>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poodle Head Mikey View Post
    Where the hell is That mechanical room??? <g>

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadDaddy420 View Post
    Stock photo I found lol.


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    Figures! We never get that much room and clean floors!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pecmsg View Post
    Figures! We never get that much room and clean floors!
    Hahaha I know every mechanical room I work in is closer to a dungeon than that room.
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    Guess I'm doing it wrong.

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    I do a triple evac with nitro to remove non condensables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBeerme View Post
    Guess I'm doing it wrong.

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    Love the floating vacuum pump look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadDaddy420 View Post
    Love the floating vacuum pump look.

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    Yes seriously I can't figure out how he's got it levitating there.

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    It's a piece of channel welded to the frame to make a box. Probably used as a tie down for trucking down the highway.


    Quote Originally Posted by R600a View Post
    Yes seriously I can't figure out how he's got it levitating there.

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    Outstanding when this chemical is misuses a wide variety of disasters, of course would take place simultaneously.

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