+ Reply to Thread
Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 21 to 40 of 43

Thread: The Best Hoses For Pulling Vacuum

  1. #21
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Dry as a bone Tucson
    Posts
    4,866
    Post Likes
    "I aint going to spit on 30 years of my life" Monte Walsh


  2. #22
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    S.C.
    Posts
    1,441
    Post Likes

    Thumbs up

    Quote Originally Posted by ACFIXR View Post
    I like that, simple.

    Who has the 1/4 Female to 1/4 Female to connect a gauge straight to the line? I normally connect my gauge with a short YJ hose.
    Yes, I know I Shouldn't But I Just Can't Help Myself...

  3. #23
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Dry as a bone Tucson
    Posts
    4,866
    Post Likes
    comes like that out of the box
    That is a 3/8 id gorilla hose with 1/4" ends, I put a 1/4"x 3/8" adapter on the other end to hook up directly to my pump.
    I have found that the less fittings you have the less time you spend trying to figure out why it's taking so long to pump down a system that held a 300# nitrogen charge.
    "I aint going to spit on 30 years of my life" Monte Walsh


  4. #24
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Western PA
    Posts
    26,690
    Post Likes
    Quote Originally Posted by slctech View Post
    I have my hoses custom made. Not sure who may be in your area, but I utilize the services of Evco House of Pipe and Fittings here in Utah. For under fifty dollars you can have 3/8" SS steel braided 6000psi burst pressure hydraulic hoses and fittings made. I have a set of ten footers for certain commercial refrigeration systems I tend to on occasion. I have no issue with permeation on these hoses and hold 50 microns with no problem. The beautiful thing about thinking out of the box is knowing that there are a ton of different types of fittings...just a little ingenuity and creativity and you can make your own vacuum tree or vacuum apparatus for pennies on the dollar.
    I like your personalized set-up, JTROUSE.
    Any chance of getting some contact info, slc? Even with shipping that is a DEAL!



  5. #25
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Howell, Michigan
    Posts
    154
    Post Likes

    Lightbulb Good pricing & GREAT IDEA!

    Quote Originally Posted by slctech View Post
    I have my hoses custom made. Not sure who may be in your area, but I utilize the services of Evco House of Pipe and Fittings here in Utah. For under fifty dollars you can have 3/8" SS steel braided 6000psi burst pressure hydraulic hoses and fittings made. I have a set of ten footers for certain commercial refrigeration systems I tend to on occasion. I have no issue with permeation on these hoses and hold 50 microns with no problem. The beautiful thing about thinking out of the box is knowing that there are a ton of different types of fittings...just a little ingenuity and creativity and you can make your own vacuum tree or vacuum apparatus for pennies on the dollar.
    I like your personalized set-up, JTROUSE.
    I like the price of those stainless hoses. Also the way you mounted your evac setup.I can never find the right place to hang my gauges.thanks ,kimosobee

  6. #26
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Howell, Michigan
    Posts
    154
    Post Likes

    Lightbulb Good pricing & GREAT IDEA!

    Quote Originally Posted by slctech View Post
    I have my hoses custom made. Not sure who may be in your area, but I utilize the services of Evco House of Pipe and Fittings here in Utah. For under fifty dollars you can have 3/8" SS steel braided 6000psi burst pressure hydraulic hoses and fittings made. I have a set of ten footers for certain commercial refrigeration systems I tend to on occasion. I have no issue with permeation on these hoses and hold 50 microns with no problem. The beautiful thing about thinking out of the box is knowing that there are a ton of different types of fittings...just a little ingenuity and creativity and you can make your own vacuum tree or vacuum apparatus for pennies on the dollar.
    I like your personalized set-up, JTROUSE.
    I like the price of those stainless hoses. Also the way you mounted your evac setup.I can never find the right place to hang my gauges.thanks ,kimosobee

  7. #27
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    Salt Lake City/Tooele
    Posts
    9,679
    Post Likes
    Quote Originally Posted by jpsmith1cm View Post
    Any chance of getting some contact info, slc? Even with shipping that is a DEAL!
    Give me a few days and I will get all the information put together. All I know is that I walk in and say I want 3/8 or 1/4 S/S braided hose in these lengths and with these fittings. They ask me how soon, I say whenever, and in about a week or so I get a call hoses are ready.

  8. #28
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    A Noisy Compressor Room
    Posts
    8,263
    Post Likes
    Thread Starter
    Quote Originally Posted by jtrouse View Post
    This is what I use for smaller (under 10 tons or so) system evacs. The pics below show a remake version that is smaller than the earlier one I used and this one can pivot to accommodate the stiffer SS hoses. It is 3/8" from the pump and up the middle of the manifold. There it splits left and right to the 3/8" (?) tubes that have their own ball valves at the bottom. The bottom left and right ports are used for refrigerant tank hook-up and whatever else I want. In this pic set I used two over sized 1/4" SS hoses hooked to the high and low side.

    The system is an 8 ton (I think) and the lines are 1/2"A - 1 1/8". The lines go up to the second story, and across to the other side of the building. 50 minutes and I got under 200 microns with pump running. Under 400 after a pump shut off and a 20 minute hold.

    PS I did not do this compressor install and cut out the suction service valve and port. I will insulate the suction line before I walk away from this job.
    Thats a nice setup you have there.

    Thanks for the idea on the hyd. hose I never thought of that.

  9. #29
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Posts
    4
    Post Likes
    I guess all this talk is on residential/light commercial.im used to heavy commercial/industrial.i only use 1/2-3/4 hoses for everything.but when pulling vacuum I use 1/2 hoses for 12-14 hrs.sometimes longer.when I have a problem job that has had leaks in past I use copper.takes out the question ARE MY HOSES LEAKING?i have to get down typically below 300 microns and hold for 24 hrs.standing vac.

  10. #30
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    6,624
    Post Likes
    Any hose can leak, i am going to order a set of those stainless one though i triple evac not because im good but because im lazy. Triple evac cuts my time down from hours to minutes,,,,,,,,,sometimes.
    You sure are cocky for a starving pilgrim.

  11. #31
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    Utah
    Posts
    246
    Post Likes
    appion j-mart had the vcrt's and hoses on sale for $99 1/2" hose with a 3/8 fitting and a 1/4 fitting. so far have worked great for me
    Do it once. Do it correct.

  12. #32
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    south florida
    Posts
    325
    Post Likes
    Is that a nickname or is there a supplier in your area called j-mart?

  13. #33
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Location
    Greenback, Tennessee
    Posts
    1,245
    Post Likes
    Quote Originally Posted by eric1589 View Post
    Is that a nickname or is there a supplier in your area called j-mart?
    J-mart = Johnstone
    -Marty

  14. #34
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    558
    Post Likes
    I was considering "building" my own kit from trutech tools for $450 but, I might stick around and see what other (and possibly cheaper) options are. With the bluvac, hoses, fittings and what not, it doesn't seem all too bad of a price though.

  15. #35
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Northern NV
    Posts
    3,404
    Post Likes
    Conductance... Term used by the guys that DO vacuum on an industrial scale. At low pressures, there are very few molecules of gas or vapor and SIZE matters! The bigger in diameter and the shorter the conduit, the faster the sparse molecules can be moved along. I like the Appion evacuation set. BIG passageways and I like their vacuum pump with the change on the fly oil reservoir. Nice stuff.......

  16. #36
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Location
    Lower Delaware
    Posts
    43
    Post Likes
    Quote Originally Posted by ACFIXR View Post
    I like the appion 3/8 hose,http://www.trutechtools.com/Appion-M...se_p_1313.html
    3/8 on my vac pump, 1/4 on the vcrt, http://www.trutechtools.com/14-Vacuu...ol_p_2938.html
    use the ,copper to my blu vac, http://www.trutechtools.com/Yellow-J...er_p_1989.html
    You have like $120.00 in it if you have the micron and pump. No rubber in line when you throw the valve.

  17. #37
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    louisiana
    Posts
    67
    Post Likes

    tree setup

    Quote Originally Posted by jtrouse View Post
    This is what I use for smaller (under 10 tons or so) system evacs. The pics below show a remake version that is smaller than the earlier one I used and this one can pivot to accommodate the stiffer SS hoses. It is 3/8" from the pump and up the middle of the manifold. There it splits left and right to the 3/8" (?) tubes that have their own ball valves at the bottom. The bottom left and right ports are used for refrigerant tank hook-up and whatever else I want. In this pic set I used two over sized 1/4" SS hoses hooked to the high and low side.

    The system is an 8 ton (I think) and the lines are 1/2"A - 1 1/8". The lines go up to the second story, and across to the other side of the building. 50 minutes and I got under 200 microns with pump running. Under 400 after a pump shut off and a 20 minute hold.

    PS I did not do this compressor install and cut out the suction service valve and port. I will insulate the suction line before I walk away from this job.
    I know this is an old thread....looking for a typical manifoldless tree setup for pulling a vacuum. Also source for ss {stainless steel?} hoses
    Thanks

  18. #38
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Thonotosassa, FL
    Posts
    804
    Post Likes
    Name:  IMG_0828.jpeg
Views: 779
Size:  2.43 MB

  19. #39
    Join Date
    Jul 2020
    Location
    San Diego, CA
    Posts
    206
    Post Likes
    I just picked up tru blu hoses, haven't had an opportunity to use them yet, but I've heard nothing but excellent reviews of them

    Sent from my SM-A516U using Tapatalk

  20. Likes TruTech-Bill liked this post.
  21. #40
    Join Date
    May 2018
    Posts
    573
    Post Likes
    I use two YJ black, heavy duty, vacuum rated, 3/8" hoses direct from vacuum pump to Appion core tools. On most any resi system it will pull down pretty fast. It really doesn't matter how much the hoses are permeable,(I mean it does matter in the sense that it will pull the vacuum down quickly), as they are valved off during the standing vacuum test anyway, so they're out of the loop. As long as my vacuum pump/hoses will pull down to a reasonable vacuum level, then I'm fine with it.
    Last edited by channellxbob; 09-18-2020 at 11:32 AM.

+ Reply to Thread
Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast

Quick Reply Quick Reply

Register Now

Please enter the name by which you would like to log-in and be known on this site.

Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Log-in

Posting Permissions

  • You may post new threads
  • You may post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •