+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 31

Thread: Cast Iron cookware.

  1. #1
    Join Date
    May 2001
    Location
    Bennington, Vermont U.S.A.
    Posts
    13,856
    Post Likes

    Cast Iron cookware.

    Having a good set of cast iron cookware is essential for the type of stuff I like to cook. The standing joke around my house is that I cut up an onion and throw it in the frying pan and THEN decide what I'm going to cook for supper.

    Anyway I have every size fry pan (skillet) up to 14". They are all broken in really well. Except for the 9" pan. I had it long time. I think my mother left it to me. I can not season this pan. I have tried all the "Tricks" to get this pan from sticking. Sanding it down with salt. Baking it with oil in it. Oiling it after washing. I just can't get the patienna(sp) on it like the other cast iron pans.

    Is there such a thing as a cast iron pan the CAN NOT be seasoned? Or does someone have a sure fired way of seasoning a pan.?

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Indiana
    Posts
    3,228
    Post Likes
    i use LARD. Every new years day i cover them in lard and put them in the oven upside down so the fats don't pool in the bottom. Ive never had one not season...u sure its cast iron and not some bi-metal of some kind?

  3. #3
    Join Date
    May 2001
    Location
    Bennington, Vermont U.S.A.
    Posts
    13,856
    Post Likes
    Thread Starter
    Quote Originally Posted by yellowirenut View Post
    i use LARD. Every new years day i cover them in lard and put them in the oven upside down so the fats don't pool in the bottom. Ive never had one not season...u sure its cast iron and not some bi-metal of some kind?

    That's a good question. It sure looks like cast iron. Its old. How does a young fella, like myself, determine if this pan is genuine cast Iron?

    (other than hitting it was a sledge hammer like an old boiler.)

    PS. I'll try that lard trick. How long and at what temp. do you put them in the oven??

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Indiana
    Posts
    3,228
    Post Likes
    oh damn....i cant remember....i am thinking 275 for 2 hours....maybe

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    Cincinnati
    Posts
    7,977
    Post Likes
    All of mine except maybe the really old ones that don't have the name on it are Wagner. They are all great with the exception of the Wagner chicken frying pan. I have the same issue you do. My mom bought it for me new back in the mid 80's and that thing just wont season up properly. The bottoms not too bad but the sides still have patches that look new.

    You don't wash them with soap and water do you ??

  6. #6
    Join Date
    May 2001
    Location
    Bennington, Vermont U.S.A.
    Posts
    13,856
    Post Likes
    Thread Starter
    Quote Originally Posted by mattm View Post
    All of mine except maybe the really old ones that don't have the name on it are Wagner. They are all great with the exception of the Wagner chicken frying pan. I have the same issue you do. My mom bought it for me new back in the mid 80's and that thing just wont season up properly. The bottoms not too bad but the sides still have patches that look new.

    You don't wash them with soap and water do you ??
    No I never use soap!

    I was wondering if I had my son hit it with his sand blaster and take it down to bare metal and start all over again??? Ever hear of that?

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Posts
    1,695
    Post Likes
    Quote Originally Posted by benncool View Post
    No I never use soap!

    I was wondering if I had my son hit it with his sand blaster and take it down to bare metal and start all over again??? Ever hear of that?
    I have seen it done bennie

    here is something on the WWW all about it

    I have a nice collection of cast iron ware that I have picked up mostly at second hand stores or yard sales. That, by the way is the most economical way to buy them. Since I don't know or trust where the pans come from or what has been in them, I always sandblast them. I have always worked where a sandblaster was available for the employees to use, so I always blast them clean and start over with the seasoning. You do get a more uniform look to the pan.

    There are different types of blasting media. Glass bead is finer and lest abrasive than graded river sand used by some. It does not matter much, just pay attention to what you are doing and just get it down to bare metal and call it good. You would have to be a moron to sit there holding the blaster tool for an hour in one spot and blast a hole right through the pan. My apologies to you morons out there! I usually cure at the warmer end of what I hear others have done. I do it at about 405 degrees F. 425 degrees F. also works well.

    It is normal for them to smoke like crazy for an hour or so. I always cure (season) a clean, shiny or new pan at least three (3) times before I start using it, The turning the pan upside down trick is best too, I believe.


    http://whatscookingamerica.net/Infor...stCastIron.htm

  8. #8
    Join Date
    May 2000
    Location
    Colorado flatland native
    Posts
    15,068
    Post Likes
    Jerry, I have a beautiful Griswold cast iron dutch oven that was the same way. Just a kooked on scum that was tough as nails. I cleaned it with my turkey cooker! Just set it on dry, and turned up the heat! Till white flame was coming out of the pan from the oxygen burning up in it. It was seriously past red hot. Then I could see the crusties flaking and ashing off. I gave it a few more minutes for good measure, then slowly turned off the heat and let er cool, re seasoned it, and it's my favorite one!

    I have seen cast iron with a horrible casting, just rough, like shark skin. Nuttin you can do with those. Turn it over, I only own Griswold...



    and wagner ware



    Always perfectly cast. Could just be a POS.
    My doctor gave me six months to live, but when I couldn't pay the bill he gave me six months more.
    Walter Matthau

  9. #9
    Join Date
    May 2001
    Location
    Bennington, Vermont U.S.A.
    Posts
    13,856
    Post Likes
    Thread Starter
    Quote Originally Posted by small change View Post
    I have seen it done bennie

    here is something on the WWW all about it

    I have a nice collection of cast iron ware that I have picked up mostly at second hand stores or yard sales. That, by the way is the most economical way to buy them. Since I don't know or trust where the pans come from or what has been in them, I always sandblast them. I have always worked where a sandblaster was available for the employees to use, so I always blast them clean and start over with the seasoning. You do get a more uniform look to the pan.

    There are different types of blasting media. Glass bead is finer and lest abrasive than graded river sand used by some. It does not matter much, just pay attention to what you are doing and just get it down to bare metal and call it good. You would have to be a moron to sit there holding the blaster tool for an hour in one spot and blast a hole right through the pan. My apologies to you morons out there! I usually cure at the warmer end of what I hear others have done. I do it at about 405 degrees F. 425 degrees F. also works well.

    It is normal for them to smoke like crazy for an hour or so. I always cure (season) a clean, shiny or new pan at least three (3) times before I start using it, The turning the pan upside down trick is best too, I believe.


    http://whatscookingamerica.net/Infor...stCastIron.htm
    Think I will try the sand blasting routine. And the lard trick. When all else fails I have that sledge hammer we use for demo-ing old steam systems.

    I will post the results. This should make my son happy. He just loves the projects I snag him into.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    May 2001
    Location
    Bennington, Vermont U.S.A.
    Posts
    13,856
    Post Likes
    Thread Starter
    Poor Richard. I got him to sand blast this pan. It doesn't look that clean in the picture but in real light it is silver right now.



    Now that we got down to the bare metal it is pretty apparent want the problem was all along.



    I'm wondering if it is even wroth the lard to even try to season it. Christmas is comming Kids.

  11. #11
    Join Date
    May 2000
    Location
    Colorado flatland native
    Posts
    15,068
    Post Likes
    Jerry, drive over to that antique store on the Albany side of town and look at some Griswold and Wagner cast iron pans. Here is a great example of their perfect casting finish. This is an ancient 20" Griswold.

    [img]http://4.bp.********.com/_7RBAigQLlwc/SYcqN3lrpSI/AAAAAAAAB1M/4pdNuI2Ev_E/s400/griswold-20-skillet.jpg[/img]

    If you cook in cast iron, life is toooooo short to use korean crap.

    [img]http://3.bp.********.com/_9hKv1CCs0us/Sdjojv7CDmI/AAAAAAAAAlA/XX6h1fuREec/s400/DSC_0007.jpg[/img]

    Click on this, you like to learn new things. http://blackirondude.********.com/20...cast-iron.html

    Now I wanna make a pot of chili.
    My doctor gave me six months to live, but when I couldn't pay the bill he gave me six months more.
    Walter Matthau

  12. #12
    Join Date
    May 2001
    Location
    Bennington, Vermont U.S.A.
    Posts
    13,856
    Post Likes
    Thread Starter
    I agree with you Jack, 100%. It is just that this belonged to my Mom. She was always tight with a buck.

    If you look real hard at the back it doesn't say "Skillet" it is stamped "SMILLET"

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    St Pete, FL
    Posts
    76
    Post Likes
    Quote Originally Posted by benncool View Post
    I agree with you Jack, 100%. It is just that this belonged to my Mom. She was always tight with a buck.
    In that case I'd just keep it and use it... you don't have to cook in it, you could use it for a trivet. By the way, not all cast iron is created equal:

    Cast iron is made by remelting pig iron, often along with substantial quantities of scrap iron and scrap steel, and taking various steps to remove undesirable contaminants such as phosphorus and sulfur. Depending on the application, carbon and silicon content are reduced to the desired levels, which may be anywhere from 2 to 3.5% and 1 to 3% respectively. Other elements are then added to the melt before the final form is produced by casting.
    From Wikipedia here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cast_iron

    So there might be some impurities in the cast that make it not season well.

  14. #14
    Join Date
    May 2000
    Location
    Colorado flatland native
    Posts
    15,068
    Post Likes
    Quote Originally Posted by benncool View Post
    I agree with you Jack, 100%. It is just that this belonged to my Mom. She was always tight with a buck.

    If you look real hard at the back it doesn't say "Skillet" it is stamped "SMILLET"

    Season that Smillet and hang it on the wall. Answer me this my friend? Do you own any Griswold? It's your American Duty to own at least one.
    My doctor gave me six months to live, but when I couldn't pay the bill he gave me six months more.
    Walter Matthau

  15. #15
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Posts
    1
    Post Likes

    RE:

    All about me, except the very old, not the name of His Wagner. They are all very well except for frying the chicken Wagner. I do the same problem as you. My mother bought me back again in the mid 80s and used it for a good season. The soil is not bad, But That updates the sides are still new.

  16. #16
    Join Date
    May 2000
    Location
    Colorado flatland native
    Posts
    15,068
    Post Likes
    Quote Originally Posted by Tolmion View Post
    All about me, except the very old, not the name of His Wagner. They are all very well except for frying the chicken Wagner. I do the same problem as you. My mother bought me back again in the mid 80s and used it for a good season. The soil is not bad, But That updates the sides are still new.

    Try to make since of that post and your head will blow up!
    My doctor gave me six months to live, but when I couldn't pay the bill he gave me six months more.
    Walter Matthau

  17. #17
    Join Date
    May 2001
    Location
    Bennington, Vermont U.S.A.
    Posts
    13,856
    Post Likes
    Thread Starter
    Quote Originally Posted by spotts View Post
    Try to make since of that post and your head will blow up!
    Glad you posted that Jack !! I thought I was getting senile. He lost me.

  18. #18
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Here and there
    Posts
    4,812
    Post Likes
    You're way too young for that....
    i belong to peta ... people eating tasty animals. all my opinions are just mine.

  19. #19
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Winter Haven, FL
    Posts
    4,380
    Post Likes
    Quote Originally Posted by Tolmion View Post
    All about me, except the very old, not the name of His Wagner. They are all very well except for frying the chicken Wagner. I do the same problem as you. My mother bought me back again in the mid 80s and used it for a good season. The soil is not bad, But That updates the sides are still new.

    Now we know who Dennis Leary got the frying pan from for the "your brain on drugs" commercial.

  20. #20
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Nevada
    Posts
    1,814
    Post Likes
    Old folks always put their pans in the fire each year when we burned leaves and brush if the pans looked bad. They come out nice and clean then must be re seasoned. If this won't fix it hang it on the wall.
    Quote
    “Engineers like to solve problems. If there are no problems handily available, they will create their own." Scott Adams

    "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."
    Albert Einstein

+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Quick Reply Quick Reply

Register Now

Please enter the name by which you would like to log-in and be known on this site.

Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Log-in

Posting Permissions

  • You may post new threads
  • You may post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •