same installer?
Hello all, Looking for a new 5 ton package unit heat pump for a rental property (so nothing fancy). I have it down to 2 units. Any opinion on Goodman GPH1460H41 vs Rheem RQPMA060JK?
same installer?
How did you determine 5 tons is what’s needed?
If that’s what size unit was there, how well did the old unit manage cycling times and humidity?
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What is most important to you - price or performance and durability?
Are you buying this and having your handyman install it or have you hired a contractor who will be responsible for it after the installation?
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Anyone of them offering a labor warranty?
Who did a load calculation?
Most residential units are oversized on undersized ductwork. Most houses don’t “need” a 5Ton
House was built in 1890. The 5ton is what it has had since it was remodeled in 1970ish and replaced with 5 ton in 1990ish. 2100sq ft; ceiling height will average 9' (has a mix of 8,9,10). Still have single pane sash cord windows (which means drafty). I'd call it poor insulation (between poor and avg). Was my grandmothers house but hvac always seemed adequate (from a layman point of view). The guy I use for my hvac said I would come out cheaper if I ordered and had shipped and he would install it on a weekend day (said it would be about $ and about 1/2 day). I use him for all my rental property (he mainly does commercial work and owns the company so no moonlighting type thing). Being a rental I'm really looking for lower cost so these 2 manufacturers won out with what I can order myself online. I understand the "right" way it should be done but I'm on a budget with this and really just assuming that current size is appropriate.
Last edited by HeyBob; 11-13-2020 at 07:10 AM. Reason: Removed Pricing
90% sure that units
Oversized on undersized ducts.
The Goodman gives a 2 year whole unit replacement if compressor fails within the 1st two years, along with the standard 10/10 compressor and parts warranty. The Rheem gives the standard 10/10 once registered on residential homes. Course you buying the equipment and carrying the warranty, that part may be a mute point?
Maybe?? I don't know enough to say different. House is in the middle of a makeshift remodel now. Just put a tape on the ducts. 18" in/out of current unit. Most rooms have 8" 3 14x14 bedrooms, 13x16 dining room and 12x14 kitchen. Living room (old converted porch) 10 x 20 has 2 6" one near each end. 6" in foyer and bathrooms. I didn't measure the return vents in house but from visual memory I'd guess 2 24x24. This in central GA and house is in almost full sun. Went in the attic the other day and maybe 6" insulation. Was prob 8 but compacted over the years. It had plaster walls that were covered with either paneling or sheetrock in 70s so I'm kind of assuming that whatever insulation was used in 1890 is what most of the house has (which may be none). The living room was added on and does have insulation. No floor insulation but they 2 1/4" of various wood layers. Oh and this is metal ducts if that matters. I'd be interested in your take. I don't have the money to replace the ducts. I'd hate to even get an estimate on that.
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You know how the warranty works right?
Say your coil leaks, you will have to pay to have a tech come out find the problem, remove said part. Then you, on your dime, will have to ship the part back to where your ordered it from, then wait. Once you get the part back, pay the tech to install it, hoping it works. All this time you will be with out air too.
Something seems fishy too. Why would someone who works for a company tell you to buy the equipment so they can install it for pennies on the dollar??? Sounds like side job bob to me.
I guess I'll cross my fingers on the warranty then.. Just for kicks I asked price if he did all. He said normally around $xxxxx. depending on unit. So it's me spending $Xxxxxx or paying an extra Xxxxxxx for easier warranty (that I may never use). It's his company and I've known him for 25+ years. His business is mainly commercial. We are in a small town with no HVAC place within 40 miles and he usually doesn't work around this area. He also gets the call on the other 5 properties I own when they have issues. He "fits me in" when I have issues so sometimes it's a several day wait. It's a give and take the way I look at it.
Either way I went ahead and ordered the Goodman. thanks to all for the input.
Last edited by HeyBob; 11-13-2020 at 07:06 AM. Reason: Removed Pricing
Ah, Goodman. The choice for cheapskates. I'll bet the equipment is too big is and the ducts are too small so the equipment will die a slow and agonizing death.
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https://www.hvac20.com/ High efficiency equipment alone does not provide home comfort and efficiency. HVAC2.0 is a process for finding the real needs of the house and the occupants. Offer the customer a menu of work to address their problems and give them a probability of success.
Find contractors with specialized training in combustion analysis, residential system performance, air flow, and duct optimization https://www.myhomecomfort.org/