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    Goodman Package Unit No Heat

    Hello!

    I became the hero of my family this July after installing a new AC/Heat Pump this summer. We have had no issues with the keeping our home cool. Now that it is getting colder I went to turn on the heat on and we get cold air. I have researched potential causes and I understand that heat pump air may feel cooler than a gas furnace.

    The fan comes on when set to heat at the thermostat.

    I followed my thermostat wire and I did not have the Orange wire connected at the AC unit. I looked for a orange wire to tie into on the unit and I did not see one! The closest orange wire was coming from the 24v transformer. I tried adding wire to that so that I can reach the thermostat wire but still no heat.

    We don't have auxillory heat strip on this unit yet. I watched every video for installing these and everyone seemed to have a orange wire to connect to.

    What am I missing?
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    Sorry, we can’t help with DIY here
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vernon Smith View Post

    What am I missing?
    Proper Training!

    Why is the donut laying on the feeder? Looks like 1 leg is already chafed, What no lock ring?

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    Do I see this correctly?

    In the 2nd picture the RED wire nut you've got High and Low voltage together? Pink wire goes to the LV set Purple goes to a run cap?

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    Shows the GPC1460H as a straight A/C unit? Reading the number from the 2nd photo down. You say you have a Heat Pump..

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...faZGsGHWpE8ni-

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    Why not remove the spacer ring where the line voltage hooks to the contactor.
    Last edited by Bazooka Joey; 09-30-2020 at 02:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bazooka Joey View Post
    Shows the GPC1460H as a straight A/C unit? Reading the number from the 2nd photo down. You say you have a Heat Pump..
    Good catch.

    A heat pump will have a Defrost Control board in the electrical compartment too.

    From the rating plate (white sticker), it doesn't appear they installed a heat kit either, as none are checked.

    Then again, I guess it could just have been a lazy installer who didn't bother to mark the kit installed.
    Instead of learning the tricks of the trade, learn the trade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pecmsg View Post
    Do I see this correctly?

    In the 2nd picture the RED wire nut you've got High and Low voltage together? Pink wire goes to the LV set Purple goes to a run cap?
    Actually I'm seeing that purple wire going to the black line lug.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rundawg View Post
    Good catch.

    A heat pump will have a Defrost Control board in the electrical compartment too.

    From the rating plate (white sticker), it doesn't appear they installed a heat kit either, as none are checked.

    Then again, I guess it could just have been a lazy installer who didn't bother to mark the kit installed.
    “I became the hero of my family this July after installing a new AC/Heat Pump this summer“

    “We don't have auxillory heat strip on this unit yet“

    Thinking the OP bought the equipment and probably installed. Mentions the heater kit will be a future purchase. I suppose now, it will be a sooner than later purchase..

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    Quote Originally Posted by VTP99 View Post
    Actually I'm seeing that purple wire going to the black line lug.
    and the Pink?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pecmsg View Post
    and the Pink?
    To orange

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    Quote Originally Posted by VTP99 View Post
    To orange
    Exactly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vernon Smith View Post
    I followed my thermostat wire and I did not have the Orange wire connected at the AC unit. I looked for a orange wire to tie into on the unit and I did not see one! The closest orange wire was coming from the 24v transformer. I tried adding wire to that so that I can reach the thermostat wire but still no heat.

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    This is awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bazooka Joey View Post
    “I became the hero of my family this July after installing a new AC/Heat Pump this summer“

    “We don't have auxillory heat strip on this unit yet“

    Thinking the OP bought the equipment and probably installed. Mentions the heater kit will be a future purchase. I suppose now, it will be a sooner than later purchase..
    Thanks guys! I thought we had a heat pump originally. So after purchasing this new one I just assumed it was a heat pump. Time get the heat strip...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pecmsg View Post
    Exactly
    Yes, this was all from me not understanding why this unit doesn't have a defrost board and trying to make something happen with purple and orange wire thinking that would kick my "heat pump," on.

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    Was the old unit a heat pump?
    I think your about to find out how ridiculously expensive it can be to heat with straight electric heat. And no heat pump.
    Hopefully your electric rates are reasonable. As I have had customers with electric heat that can exceed $600 electric bills in the dead of winter, in one month.
    You need to have a tech check the wiring. Your high voltage wiring isnt to code and is a fire hazard, and you may have run line voltage to your thermostat.
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    Humbling moment realizing we don't have a heat pump. This was my first HVAC attempt and just getting the thing to run was a truimph. I do need to clean up my wiring connections. It will be much easier now that is not summertime in middle Ga. Suggetions on the size of heat kit to install? My home is 2,432 sq ft. Wil this do 15 Kilowatt Heater Coil (51,150 BTUs of Heat)?

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    Heating isn’t sized via square footage.
    What are your electric rates? And did you have a heat pump before?
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    Propane would probably be cheaper ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by VTP99 View Post
    Propane would probably be cheaper ....
    He mixs high and low voltage now gas 🤔

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