I have app 25 years experience. I am retired now but help out a few friends when they have issues or need advice. I made 75K my first full year in the trade. I have been a service tech for most of these years. I have also been a service manager for two companies for app 4 years and worked for myself a few years. All referral and all I did was service. For installs I recommended a friend. I made as much as 115K as a tech. I have worked straight hourly, hourly with spiffs and straight commission. Mainly worked flat rate except for one company and commercial which was T&M.
I always felt my strength was providing value or the feeling of value to my customers I served. I trained under two people. One was nothing but a salesman and the other wouldn't sell anything but wanted to fix everything. I wanted to be the best combination of both. I wasn't the best at either but was the best combination of those two I ever saw. I knew how to make money for my company and served the customer the best way I knew how.
That is a decent summary of who I was in the HVACR trade. Some credentials are in the profile but not all.
To address the issues here I wouldn't need any experience just the basic concepts of business would suffice.
The best owners, managers and service managers I ever worked with were not the best techs necessarily. They always were the best combination that I described above. They understood the technical side of the business along with sales and business. I know many good techs that failed at the business because they lacked the other parts.
I believe there is enough in my profile to answer that. Why is more information needed? I asked before is it the belief that one with less education shouldn't question someone with more?
I'll answer that Q w/ an answer that even you will be able to comprehend. NO WAY IN HELL!
I will add that just because I have an addiction,that does not mean in any way that I was "paying attention/or remembering or retained ANYTHING or even recalling anything correctly". And your reason for arrogance might be ?
Aha, your higher assness prevails. NO WAY IN HELL!!! anyone has the right to ask Q's of anyone else. As an Apprentice I was told to write my Q's down in a pad and ask them when work was over,because as the Tech told me "WE are working now,WE are providing a Service now,WE are providing Quality and Value now, & NOW IS NOT THE TIME"
Aha, your higher assness prevails. NO WAY IN HELL!!! anyone has the right to ask Q's of anyone else. As an Apprentice I was told to write my Q's down in a pad and ask them when work was over,because as the Tech told me "WE are working now,WE are providing a Service now,WE are providing Quality and Value now, & NOW IS NOT THE TIME"
It never seems to be the time for you to answer a question my frightened friend.
I have app 25 years experience. I am retired now but help out a few friends when they have issues or need advice. I made 75K my first full year in the trade. I have been a service tech for most of these years. I have also been a service manager for two companies for app 4 years and worked for myself a few years. All referral and all I did was service. For installs I recommended a friend. I made as much as 115K as a tech. I have worked straight hourly, hourly with spiffs and straight commission. Mainly worked flat rate except for one company and commercial which was T&M.
I always felt my strength was providing value or the feeling of value to my customers I served. I trained under two people. One was nothing but a salesman and the other wouldn't sell anything but wanted to fix everything. I wanted to be the best combination of both. I wasn't the best at either but was the best combination of those two I ever saw. I knew how to make money for my company and served the customer the best way I knew how.
That is a decent summary of who I was in the HVACR trade. Some credentials are in the profile but not all.
To address the issues here I wouldn't need any experience just the basic concepts of business would suffice.
The best owners, managers and service managers I ever worked with were not the best techs necessarily. They always were the best combination that I described above. They understood the technical side of the business along with sales and business. I know many good techs that failed at the business because they lacked the other parts.
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Trying to put the comments you make on here in perspective. It's difficult. But I'm trying.
10% of his customers leave because of attitude and prices and I say to build value and you need to know more than what was already available??? Stay a service technician and don't venture out on your own or pursue a career in management is the best advice you will ever get.
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