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    Quote Originally Posted by BBeerme View Post
    Sure.

    And you can keep your doctor.

    LOL
    The vast majority did and anyone who didn't had crap insurance that the insurance co. changed their policy otherwise they were grandfathered in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pageyjim View Post
    SEC. 1105. LOAN FORGIVENESS.

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-...3eefd391b45c4e

    It is written in the bill. Under the part called "LOAN FORGIVENESS."
    Essential small business' can utilize the loan to limp them thru a couple months. Non essential small business' are screwed, loan or not. What about the non essential large business'? This is the nail in the coffin for brick and mortar retail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2sac View Post
    Essential small business' can utilize the loan to limp them thru a couple months. Non essential small business' are screwed, loan or not. What about the non essential large business'? This is the nail in the coffin for brick and mortar retail.
    How so?
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    Ah, now you're getting on board again.

    There was a small percentage who had everything change.

    And for the rest of us our rates went up, to what these days, 50% across the board?

    You see anything similar for what is in the future regarding this matter? I'm guessing no.


    Quote Originally Posted by pageyjim View Post
    The vast majority did and anyone who didn't had crap insurance that the insurance co. changed their policy otherwise they were grandfathered in.
    I do a triple evac with nitro to remove non condensables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBeerme View Post
    Ah, now you're getting on board again.

    There was a small percentage who had everything change.

    And for the rest of us our rates went up, to what these days, 50% across the board?

    You see anything similar for what is in the future regarding this matter? I'm guessing no.
    As I said the vast majority did and anyone who didn't had crap insurance that the insurance co. changed their policy otherwise they were grandfathered in.

    You and everyone else are enjoying much better insurance because of it.
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    And paying 50% more. In my case, no, not much better insurance. Just more time, paper work, and questions to put online for the medical community [anywhere] to view.


    Quote Originally Posted by pageyjim View Post
    As I said the vast majority did and anyone who didn't had crap insurance that the insurance co. changed their policy otherwise they were grandfathered in.

    You and everyone else are enjoying much better insurance because of it.
    I do a triple evac with nitro to remove non condensables.

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    That is most likely what all of us have to look forward to.

    I can only judge the future by looking at the history.
    I do a triple evac with nitro to remove non condensables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pageyjim View Post
    How so?
    A non essential business has zero income. They still have obligations to pay. Rent, utilities, inventory....From what I've read, the loan would be allocated 75% for payroll and 25% for expenses. A lot of small business' work just like our gubmint. They operate in debt and rob Peter to pay Paul. Why bother paying 2 months of payroll for a business that is going to fail? This is the gubmints plan to not overwhelm the unemployment system. Not going to happen
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBeerme View Post
    And paying 50% more. In my case, no, not much better insurance. Just more time, paper work, and questions to put online for the medical community [anywhere] to view.
    You have no lifetime or yearly limit on healthcare.

    Bankruptcies due to health reasons dropped by 50% or app 750.000/year.

    Between 1990 and 2008 health spending rose 7.2% a year. After the exchanges opened in 2014, spending on health care rose more slowly. It grew 5.3% in 2014 and 5.8% in 2015.

    Why don't you start a separate thread BB?
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    Here's another way to look at things.

    With that recent 2-6 trillion stimulus package, that just de-valued my net worth.

    One bag of groceries today cost $85. And I live a very modest lifestyle. Shopping sales and such.

    But I can understand if you can't see what is going on around you. The vast majority in America can't see, or doesn't understand, what is going on around them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2sac View Post
    A non essential business has zero income. They still have obligations to pay. Rent, utilities, inventory....From what I've read, the loan would be allocated 75% for payroll and 25% for expenses. A lot of small business' work just like our gubmint. They operate in debt and rob Peter to pay Paul. Why bother paying 2 months of payroll for a business that is going to fail? This is the gubmints plan to not overwhelm the unemployment system. Not going to happen
    Their rent and utilities and some other costs are covered by the loans.

    There would be nothing to repay. They could get their own salary and health benefits too during this time.

    If they go over the 25% for expenses that is what would be needed to be paid back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBeerme View Post
    Here's another way to look at things.

    With that recent 2-6 trillion stimulus package, that just de-valued my net worth.

    One bag of groceries today cost $85. And I live a very modest lifestyle. Shopping sales and such.

    But I can understand if you can't see what is going on around you. The vast majority in America can't see, or doesn't understand, what is going on around them.
    From reading your posts here I am convinced you can't see anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pageyjim View Post
    Their rent and utilities and some other costs are covered by the loans.

    There would be nothing to repay. They could get their own salary and health benefits too during this time.

    If they go over the 25% for expenses that is what would be needed to be paid back.
    What happens if the lockdown extends more than 2 months? The loan/grant will be beneficial for some. For others, all it will do is prolong the inevitable.
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