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  1. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan17644 View Post

    Yes my house needs a 2.5 -Ton
    if not a 3 ton system and

    thank you for replying.

    Is any of the 3 going to have more hardware problems then normal?
    Central NC
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    __ > 1,800 Sq.Feet ?
    __ > 2,400 Sq.Feet ?
    __ > 3,000 Sq.Feet ?

    ___ 2-Story ?

    __ > 200 Sq feet of Windows
    __ > 300 Sq Feet of Glass ?

    A few of the variables ONE MUST KNOW
    in order to calculate whether 2.5 Ton is an appropriate selection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rider77 View Post
    Post the load calculation that shows you need 2.5 or 3 tons.

    Quote Originally Posted by Titan17644 View Post
    Load balancing shows a 2.5 ton is needed by Brady Flanary in North Carolina.
    So are just not believing "anything" the homeowners tell us today? Has it really come to this? Sad. :-(
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Bill View Post
    So are just not believing "anything" the homeowners tell us today? Has it really come to this? Sad. :-(
    Along with choosing the warranty before the installing contractor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Bill View Post
    So are just not believing "anything" the homeowners tell us today? Has it really come to this? Sad. :-(
    Not so much in not believing the homeowner, it’s the contractor giving said information to the homeowner I’m worried about. Not much faith in them these days.
    I’m sitting here waiting on the vacuum pump to finish on a Samsung VRF, that had a small leak on a ball valve. Another contractor told the customer that these systems weren’t much good, and the whole thing should be ripped out.
    I just want the customer to receive good, honest, ACCURATE information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pecmsg View Post
    Along with choosing the warranty before the installing contractor.
    So we are not believing this either, we need proof?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rider77 View Post
    Not so much in not believing the homeowner, it’s the contractor giving said information to the homeowner I’m worried about. Not much faith in them these days.
    I’m sitting here waiting on the vacuum pump to finish on a Samsung VRF, that had a small leak on a ball valve. Another contractor told the customer that these systems weren’t much good, and the whole thing should be ripped out.
    I just want the customer to receive good, honest, ACCURATE information.
    I understand, I live in a city that I think now has a patent on "Sales Techs". We still a lot of "GOOD HONEST" service techs here, but like Bob Dylan said "Times Are A-Changin".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Bill View Post
    I understand, I live in a city that I think now has a patent on "Sales Techs". We still a lot of "GOOD HONEST" service techs here, but like Bob Dylan said "Times Are A-Changin".
    The whole industry is going that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Bill View Post
    I understand, I live in a city that I think now has a patent on "Sales Techs". We still a lot of "GOOD HONEST" service techs here, but like Bob Dylan said "Times Are A-Changin".
    Yup, same here.
    We will pay you $13/hr but you make big bonuses to sell sell sell. Don’t know how to use a meter? Doesn’t matter. Here’s the phone number to our salesman.
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    And then there's the planned obsolescence by manufacturers 😯

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    Quote Originally Posted by VTP99 View Post
    And then there's the planned obsolescence by manufacturers ��
    Planned by the manufactures of forced on them by the energy regs from Uncle Sam?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pecmsg View Post
    Planned by the manufactures of forced on them by the energy regs from Uncle Sam?
    That energy saving part is FAKE NEWS there's no saving in the long run.

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    The Tempstar is a bare bones builder model. Constant torque air handler. The Amana A/C is more deluxe and better built than the Tempstar also with a constant torque air handler. The Lennox Elite is deluxe A/C and matched with a builder line but variable speed air handler. Because of that, dealers being equal, I'd go that way myself.

    Answer Dan's questions and he'll tell you what size the calcs show. A step I did when selling but pretty rare these days.

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