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    Chilled water leak

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    I have leak in chilled water leak in network. Observed consumption of make up water 60 l/hr.

    Didn't found leak by visual inspection of pump rooms.

    Is there any way to find leak area?

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    Air bleeders piped to drains?
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    Cracked U bend in a coil? Are the condensate drains plumbed right over a floor drain?

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    If you have them I would start with checking the automatic air bleeders. You can walk the pipe at the same time. Then go to the coils.
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    Failed plate heat exchanger that has secondary pressure lower than chilled water loop pressure .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Healey Nut View Post
    Failed plate heat exchanger that has secondary pressure lower than chilled water loop pressure .
    I will put my money on this option.....let it ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BALloyd View Post
    I will put my money on this option.....let it ride.

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    Except that the OP says he confirmed there are no leaks by visually inspecting the pump rooms.

    With commercial work, Many times, the problem doesn’t exist in the room with the problem.

    I can walk into a building with 100 VAV boxes, and look in the mechanical room, and determine there’s no leak in that room.....doesn’t mean there aren’t any leaks out in the other 10,000 feet of piping.

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    Pretty sure Healy was implying an internal leak to the lower pressure side. This would not be visually apparent.
    Quote Originally Posted by 71CHOPS View Post
    Except that the OP says he confirmed there are no leaks by visually inspecting the pump rooms.

    With commercial work, Many times, the problem doesn’t exist in the room with the problem.

    I can walk into a building with 100 VAV boxes, and look in the mechanical room, and determine there’s no leak in that room.....doesn’t mean there aren’t any leaks out in the other 10,000 feet of piping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BALloyd View Post
    Pretty sure Healy was implying an internal leak to the lower pressure side. This would not be visually apparent.

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    Have you noticed an increase in water volume in the lower pressure system?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WAYNE3298 View Post
    Have you noticed an increase in water volume in the lower pressure system?
    Make up water is increasing by 50 l/h

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    Quote Originally Posted by BALloyd View Post
    Pretty sure Healy was implying an internal leak to the lower pressure side. This would not be visually apparent.

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    Yes, I was being facetious. If that were the case, the leak would be visually apparent, but he would still be required to leave the room to find it! LOL!

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    Most of asset inside bathroom which have drain

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    You might need a different language translation tool.

    That last response didn’t make any sense.

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    By what I read you are up to 110 Liters/hour make up (or 30 gallons / hour). Pretty big leak.

    Walk the system down and find all air bleeders and manual vent and drain valve that might be dumping water to drainage system. Close them or cap them as best you can. See if that accounts for all or part of your makeup.

    If you do not find any external leakage, you better start isolating and doing a pressure drop check on various sections you can isolate to rule out or verify where the leak is or isn't.

    Good Luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Answer-Man View Post
    By what I read you are up to 110 Liters/hour make up (or 30 gallons / hour). Pretty big leak.

    Walk the system down and find all air bleeders and manual vent and drain valve that might be dumping water to drainage system. Close them or cap them as best you can. See if that accounts for all or part of your makeup.

    If you do not find any external leakage, you better start isolating and doing a pressure drop check on various sections you can isolate to rule out or verify where the leak is or isn't.

    Good Luck
    Leak found by isolation method
    Thanks to all

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