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    Quote Originally Posted by Adlerberts-Protege View Post
    The problem with so called normalization of the freaks, is that someone is going to pay for it, and pay for it dearly. Imagine a world where we can’t tell men from women. Can’t tell gays from lesbians. Can’t speak out on god, religion and conservatism. That is one scary damn world, not a world I want my children living in.
    Yeah... that is indeed a scary world...

    Which brings the question:

    The polecats that are pushing this agenda...
    THEY (polecats) live behind walls and send their kids to private schools...
    So THEY do not have to live in this world they are pushing.

    So one has to ask themselves...
    Do those polecats really care about us working stiffs???
    Or is it nothing more than a lust for power, at our expense???

    As my grandfather said:
    NEVER trust a polecat...
    If their mouth is moving, they are lying!
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    As a youth, I wasn't the least bit interested in politics. Then came my first presidential election. I went mostly liberal across the board, probably because I liked what I heard; it "felt" good. Keep in mind, back then, liberal and the left were the same thing, not so today.

    Then it was maybe a couple or few years out of high school and my dad got pissed, he exclaimed "Damn hippies, they want you to share everything you have, but they don't have anything to share."

    That really got me thinking about life. About how you work, make money, buy things. Then go about protecting the things you buy.

    I'm sure it took a few more years, but the more I observed what was going on around me, the more to the right I moved. Looking back, that statement from my father was a pivotal moment.
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    Did you really need the " If you were a real tech " ??

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    Yep, I never understood the mentality of wanting others stuff. I mean, you don’t have the capability to get your own. If you really wanted it you would of figured out a way to get it already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adlerberts-Protege View Post
    I pray for you.
    Those are old liberal ideas. Definitely not liberal ideas of the last 50 years.


    Which ones? The constitutional ideas or how you believe they have morphed.
    The ideas don't change but how to interpret or implement them does.
    Ideas become linked to political power. Who's on first. If you want to know what the writers of our Constitution meant, just ask who ever is in power.
    Appointing judges for the SC is just political deck stacking. I think the results are fairly meaningless as far as the Constitution intent goes.

    Ideas of liberty have to meet not only the historic times but how the liberties are interpreted by the courts. That pesky human thing.
    Legal interpretations often have many scratching their heads. Did the writers of the Constitution ever think it would be used to write laws regarding:
    Sharing of bathrooms?
    The right to possess a RPG?
    Offensive speech?
    Decide an election?
    Cartoon images of a minister with his mother, copulating in an outhouse?

    It's sad when our Supreme Court just rules as a political arm of the parties. They were supposed to be smarter than that.

    I would suggest that conservatives don't have a problem with liberal ideas, just with the liberals interpretation of those ideas. I'd go a bit farther an say in every freedom loving conservative there lives a liberal because liberty is a liberal idea.
    A Constitutional conservative? A Constitutional liberal? Maybe revive the Wigg Party.
    Not a Libertarian though. I hear they just want to get laid, not pay taxes, and smoke dope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBeerme View Post
    As a youth, I wasn't the least bit interested in politics. Then came my first presidential election. I went mostly liberal across the board, probably because I liked what I heard; it "felt" good. Keep in mind, back then, liberal and the left were the same thing, not so today.

    Then it was maybe a couple or few years out of high school and my dad got pissed, he exclaimed "Damn hippies, they want you to share everything you have, but they don't have anything to share."

    That really got me thinking about life. About how you work, make money, buy things. Then go about protecting the things you buy.

    I'm sure it took a few more years, but the more I observed what was going on around me, the more to the right I moved. Looking back, that statement from my father was a pivotal moment.
    It's too bad your Dad was affected by the hippies. Most of them never had to work raise kids, pay mortgages, but they were just kids that got a lot of press for misbehaving.
    But they morphed into quasi conservatives or flaming liberals just like their parents.

    But like this post started out I am glad of the true believer hippies that are still standing.
    Not so much as what they believe or do, but that they still have the beliefs they started with. An exercise in Liberty. I'm excluding the political hippies. They were just a bunch of angry kids who became dangerous.
    The hippies were the most important culture shift of the last century. I think most can understand that if only for the music. Ten years before the #1 hit was How Much Is That Doggy In The Window.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ga-hvac-tech View Post
    One of the local talk radio folks...
    For the locals: Eric Ericsson...

    Has a phrase he uses from time to time, when discussing the progressive left:

    'You will be made to care'

    Think on that a bit...

    Is there freedom in that???

    Or "you will be made to hate". Same spirit, different mantra.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvacker View Post
    It's too bad your Dad was affected by the hippies. Most of them never had to work raise kids, pay mortgages, but they were just kids that got a lot of press for misbehaving.
    But they morphed into quasi conservatives or flaming liberals just like their parents.

    But like this post started out I am glad of the true believer hippies that are still standing.
    Not so much as what they believe or do, but that they still have the beliefs they started with. An exercise in Liberty. I'm excluding the political hippies. They were just a bunch of angry kids who became dangerous.
    The hippies were the most important culture shift of the last century. I think most can understand that if only for the music. Ten years before the #1 hit was How Much Is That Doggy In The Window.
    I have to agree with that, and a foundational beginning for what we have today. The 'Sexual Revolution' impacted our society more than most know. And not in a good way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hvacker View Post
    It's too bad your Dad was affected by the hippies. Most of them never had to work raise kids, pay mortgages, but they were just kids that got a lot of press for misbehaving.
    But they morphed into quasi conservatives or flaming liberals just like their parents.

    But like this post started out I am glad of the true believer hippies that are still standing.
    Not so much as what they believe or do, but that they still have the beliefs they started with. An exercise in Liberty. I'm excluding the political hippies. They were just a bunch of angry kids who became dangerous.
    The hippies were the most important culture shift of the last century. I think most can understand that if only for the music. Ten years before the #1 hit was How Much Is That Doggy In The Window.
    Sorry, but that post was complete garbage.

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    What would you guys enjoying union wages do....if....the gop went old school gop.

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    Better yet Scoobie what would you do if the democrat party went old school?
    No man can be both ignorant and free.
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    Historically, the Democratic Party was for the working man. I’d be okay.

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    They were not the liberal nuts they are today.
    No man can be both ignorant and free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvacker View Post
    Or "you will be made to hate". Same spirit, different mantra.
    No... there is a difference...

    However understanding that difference...
    Requires one to come down from their intellectual ivory tower and realize there IS ultimate truth that does NOT change.

    Intellectuals do not like the idea of a truth that is above their minds...
    GA feels sorry for folks that have been fooled by the pseudo reality of the intellectual mindset.
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