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    Unhappy The value and trouble of life

    Hello, everyone.i am a new guy.I have worked in the ventilation for 6 years.Air distribution system.Diffuser unit。
    I was selling instrument equipment when I graduated.Mainly hydraulic oil analysis equipment.Fatigue, monitoring, viscosity.
    I was very happy when I just graduated, although my income was very low.But can learn, saw a lot of factories.Learned the principles and development of the gasoline engine diesel engine.Combustion model is the most basic and important knowledge.At the heart of the gasoline engine is math.
    I majored in material forming and control engineering.Later, I also learned other books.But neither deep nor professional.
    My country's education has been boasting and lying, textbooks tell me that China is very advanced.But China is very backward.Our automobile industry is very backward.The United States has not only gm but also the southwest research institute.Britain has not only Rolls-Royce but also the Richardo institute.Germany has not only Mercedes but also FEV and aachen university。

    China's auto industry is in deep recession this year.Dongfeng Peugeot Citroen made a substantial loss.Shut down some factories.Gac fiat Chrysler also made a substantial loss.Dongfeng Renault is making heavy losses and preparing to close factories.
    I don't understand.China is not a rich place.Many places are still poor.We don't need so many car factories.The new factory, only five years old, is going to close this year.Billions of dollars have been wasted.Taxpayers' money is a waste.
    The first five years.I did a lot of ventilation in the car factory.But this year there was nothing.Maybe I need to learn another major.Change industries to sell other things.

    I can't work in one industry for very long.Today it's the car industry, tomorrow it may be the food industry.
    Maybe ventilation.It can go on and on.

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    Not to bring politics into it, but it sounds like a trade deal between the us and China is very close. This should boost your economy in the meantime look at commercial refrigeration this tends to be busy even in the worst economy’s good luck.
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    I don't care much about politics.All three of the sales engineers I know who worked at carrier have left.Hopefully, in the worst of times, there will still be factories that need retrofitting or new ventilation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazzycajun View Post
    look at commercial refrigeration
    This ^^^^^^^

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    In your part of the world, I would caution you against being unconcerned about politics.

    Here in the United States, our founders were familiar with a phrase. It goes like this:
    "the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."
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    It seems to me that China has a systemic mis-management problem. The stated goals are admirable - helping the people to make economic gains to improve their lives and lifestyles.

    But the apparent approach has to decide what the end result is, then build the end result first and then manage the country to grow into fit the designated end result. To my knowledge there is no history of this policy ever working.

    To me the correct approach would be to provide easy and inexpensive access to capital funding and then let the people set to work to create their own dream. This provides wide opportunity and also taps into the basic innate desire to improve which is at the core of human nature. As you witness in yourself.

    Obviously; I am biased - but my best advice to you is to learn to speak fluent English with as little accent as possible and apply for a US work visa. Spend a year working in US and then make further decisions about your Life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enzo-wu View Post
    Hello, everyone.i am a new guy.I have worked in the ventilation for 6 years.Air distribution system.Diffuser unit。
    I was selling instrument equipment when I graduated.Mainly hydraulic oil analysis equipment.Fatigue, monitoring, viscosity.
    I was very happy when I just graduated, although my income was very low.But can learn, saw a lot of factories.Learned the principles and development of the gasoline engine diesel engine.Combustion model is the most basic and important knowledge.At the heart of the gasoline engine is math.
    I majored in material forming and control engineering.Later, I also learned other books.But neither deep nor professional.
    My country's education has been boasting and lying, textbooks tell me that China is very advanced.But China is very backward.Our automobile industry is very backward.The United States has not only gm but also the southwest research institute.Britain has not only Rolls-Royce but also the Richardo institute.Germany has not only Mercedes but also FEV and aachen university。

    China's auto industry is in deep recession this year.Dongfeng Peugeot Citroen made a substantial loss.Shut down some factories.Gac fiat Chrysler also made a substantial loss.Dongfeng Renault is making heavy losses and preparing to close factories.
    I don't understand.China is not a rich place.Many places are still poor.We don't need so many car factories.The new factory, only five years old, is going to close this year.Billions of dollars have been wasted.Taxpayers' money is a waste.
    The first five years.I did a lot of ventilation in the car factory.But this year there was nothing.Maybe I need to learn another major.Change industries to sell other things.

    I can't work in one industry for very long.Today it's the car industry, tomorrow it may be the food industry.
    Maybe ventilation.It can go on and on.
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    Your warning is objective and necessary.There is freedom of speech in America.But in China, I can't say anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poodle Head Mikey View Post
    It seems to me that China has a systemic mis-management problem. The stated goals are admirable - helping the people to make economic gains to improve their lives and lifestyles.

    But the apparent approach has to decide what the end result is, then build the end result first and then manage the country to grow into fit the designated end result. To my knowledge there is no history of this policy ever working.

    To me the correct approach would be to provide easy and inexpensive access to capital funding and then let the people set to work to create their own dream. This provides wide opportunity and also taps into the basic innate desire to improve which is at the core of human nature. As you witness in yourself.

    Obviously; I am biased - but my best advice to you is to learn to speak fluent English with as little accent as possible and apply for a US work visa. Spend a year working in US and then make further decisions about your Life.

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    I'm very surprised by your answer.Your point is very precise.We always think the United States knows a lot about China, but China knows very little about the United States.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enzo-wu View Post
    Your warning is objective and necessary.There is freedom of speech in America.But in China, I can't say anything.
    Indeed.

    We can't say much in China either. Not if we want to remain free from the officials.
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    Quote Originally Posted by enzo-wu View Post
    I'm very surprised by your answer.Your point is very precise.We always think the United States knows a lot about China, but China knows very little about the United States.
    In Taiwan, more in known. Hong Kong is also much more experienced with the free world.

    The Communist leadership fears the people, mainly because they could easily overwhelm the army. Their most pressing concern is to provide jobs for the people flooding into the urban areas every day. A month without new jobs could mean a real revolution, and not merely a Maoist cultural revolution.

    I'm sure they do not teach about the tens of millions of Chinese people killed during the Mao Tse-tung regime.

    I wonder...how long can the truth be suppressed in any nation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poodle Head Mikey View Post
    It seems to me that China has a systemic mis-management problem. The stated goals are admirable - helping the people to make economic gains to improve their lives and lifestyles.

    But the apparent approach has to decide what the end result is, then build the end result first and then manage the country to grow into fit the designated end result. To my knowledge there is no history of this policy ever working.

    To me the correct approach would be to provide easy and inexpensive access to capital funding and then let the people set to work to create their own dream. This provides wide opportunity and also taps into the basic innate desire to improve which is at the core of human nature. As you witness in yourself.

    Obviously; I am biased - but my best advice to you is to learn to speak fluent English with as little accent as possible and apply for a US work visa. Spend a year working in US and then make further decisions about your Life.

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    I'm very surprised by your answer.Your point is very precise.We always think the United States knows a lot about China, but China knows very little about the United States.
    The Internet is regulated in China.I need to use some software to get over the ‘wall’.I just found this forum, so I don't know how to click correct.
    I can finally have a look.The world outside of China.A few of my American friends told me, too limited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    In Taiwan, more in known. Hong Kong is also much more experienced with the free world.

    The Communist leadership fears the people, mainly because they could easily overwhelm the army. Their most pressing concern is to provide jobs for the people flooding into the urban areas every day. A month without new jobs could mean a real revolution, and not merely a Maoist cultural revolution.

    I'm sure they do not teach about the tens of millions of Chinese people killed during the Mao Tse-tung regime.

    I wonder...how long can the truth be suppressed in any nation?
    Oh, my god!You know so much...Our textbooks never mention this...I didn't know anything about it until I finished college...Many of my friends think a trade war is beneficial.It is also right to ask China to protect intellectual property.Even though trump can only last 10 seconds on a woman, we actually have a crush on him...

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