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    closing house remodel...new furnace in attic, inadequate airflow & slow temp change

    Hi...I'm closing this week on a 1950s house that has been remodeled.... the flippers put a new furnace in the attic...the remodelling job is excellent, but my big
    concern relates to the furnace....

    (1) it simply doesn't adjust temperature in a timely fashion
    (2) low airflow throughout the home...ie. all registers

    I was at the house for the inspection...they had the furnace off...then we set it to 65...it had a hard time getting up to 65....after several hours it was only up to 62 or something
    I was at the house another occasion...when we arrived it was at 65....we set it to 73 to see how it would heat up....after 1 hour it was at 66..
    -the house is only 1500 square feet
    -seller is saying they had an HVAC guy service it and he says it is sized correctly and it's under warranty...the guy that they claim serviced it is a GC and not HVAC
    specialist...I believe we asked for an HVAC specialist to service it...what do you think? Am I freaking out over nothing??...I know once the house closes we are stuck

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    Hire your own contractor!

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    here's the problem...we are already past the inspection period...and we required inspection and servicing by a "licensed HVAC specialist"....the listing agent says they had it serviced...I looked up their guy
    that allegedly serviced it and he's a GC with past infractions....as well the listing agent refers to his business name as "______ Custom Interior and Heating"....the actual registered name of the business doesn't have "Heating" in it..this is very fishy to me....I don't see how they can pass this guy off as a "licensed HVAC specialist"....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzy2019 View Post
    here's the problem...we are already past the inspection period...and we required inspection and servicing by a "licensed HVAC specialist"....the listing agent says they had it serviced...I looked up their guy
    that allegedly serviced it and he's a GC with past infractions....as well the listing agent refers to his business name as "______ Custom Interior and Heating"....the actual registered name of the business doesn't have "Heating" in it..this is very fishy to me....I don't see how they can pass this guy off as a "licensed HVAC specialist"....
    Because over 50% of the contractors out there don't have a clue except to replace equipment with the cheapest equipment and labor they can get.

    I cant see the home from here, it may be sized properly it may not. You need someone you can trust to inspect it!

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    I agree....do you think we should say we reject their person as not meeting the "licensed HVAC specialist" requirement, and ask to have our own inspection done? it's supposed to close in 4 days...these guys are flippers...
    I've experienced this before so my alarm bells are going off...on the disclosure form they stamped "NEVER LIVED IN HOUSE" all over the place to try and alleviate themselves of future liability...I just don't see how a brand new furnace in a little 1500 sq ft house lacks airflow like that...they would've had to screw something up royally right?
    ...I know they used soft ducting in the attic and probably running to all vents...I like the house but there's no excuse for this

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzy2019 View Post
    I agree....do you think we should say we reject their person as not meeting the "licensed HVAC specialist" requirement, and ask to have our own inspection done? it's supposed to close in 4 days...these guys are flippers...
    I've experienced this before so my alarm bells are going off...on the disclosure form they stamped "NEVER LIVED IN HOUSE" all over the place to try and alleviate themselves of future liability...I just don't see how a brand new furnace in a little 1500 sq ft house lacks airflow like that...they would've had to screw something up royally right?
    ...I know they used soft ducting in the attic and probably running to all vents...I like the house but there's no excuse for this
    Yes there is....Flip homes get the cheapest material and workmanship out there!

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    hmm....any tips?? do we just accept as is and get our own guy AFTER closing?....or try and push for another "LICENSED HVAC SPECIALIST" as we required?

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    You need to be discussing with your agent. As Pecmsg said “get your hvac contractor to look at the furnace”. Just because he has a license does NOT mean very much.

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    -seller is saying they had an HVAC guy service it and he says it is sized correctly and it's under warranty...the guy that they claim serviced it is a GC and not HVAC.

    What’s under warranty? a small labor warranty, or the equipment is going to be put in your name, so you can get the maximum manufacturers warranty? If system never gets registered the manufacturers warranty decreases significantly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bazooka Joey View Post
    -seller is saying they had an HVAC guy service it and he says it is sized correctly and it's under warranty...the guy that they claim serviced it is a GC and not HVAC.

    What’s under warranty? a small labor warranty, or the equipment is going to be put in your name, so you can get the maximum manufacturers warranty? If system never gets registered the manufacturers warranty decreases significantly.


    So I should require what? a receipt for purchase of the furnace and installation?

    btw, the hvac guy they had inspect and say the furnace works fine is a GC with previous infractions for doing stuff out of his license....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzy2019 View Post
    So I should require what? a receipt for purchase of the furnace and installation?

    btw, the hvac guy they had inspect and say the furnace works fine is a GC with previous infractions for doing stuff out of his license....
    New furnace as you say, you should get the serial number of it along with the model number and go to that brand web-site to register it once you purchase this residence, as manufacturers warranty decreases significantly if never registered.

    I was asking what are you referring to when you say it’s under warranty? They are giving you a limited labor warranty? They are going to register the furnace in your name after purchase? What are you talking about, what warranty.

    You don’t just slap a furnace in, ask them for a commissioning report on that furnace, things like static pressure, temperature rise across the Heat Exchanger, amprege draw of motor(s) gas pressures are all within manufacturers specifications.

    The other question you ask was answered as many here said get your own Knowledgable Tech. to check, ductwork also. Seems like a doable and a reasonable thing to do.

    Guessing it’s a Goodman furnace?

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    is it gas heat or electric? furnace is usually gas, air handler is usually electric in hvac speak. kinda sounds like an a/h with 5 kw heat? still the gc for an checkout sounds like a disqualifier to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poppa View Post
    is it gas heat or electric? furnace is usually gas, air handler is usually electric in hvac speak. kinda sounds like an a/h with 5 kw heat? still the gc for an checkout sounds like a disqualifier to me.
    it's a 2018 60000btu goodman installed in the attic....they used the soft flexible ductwork....inspector is guessing airflow issues due to pinching in ducting somewhere..but just guessing

    -they're saying it's a "3 ton blower"
    -sq footage of house is 1740
    -my concern is the master bedroom is in basement and when I was there airflow was miniscule....I'm trying to avoid taking on the costs to rectify this before closing and
    force the seller to take care of this

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