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    Quote Originally Posted by BBeerme View Post
    Timebuilder is correct. We have a tiered tax rate system. The more you make, the more you pay, but that first 50K is paid at the same rate regardless of the tiers above that.

    https://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/taxbracket.asp
    I would bet that you came in later after he made some edits.
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    No. I saw the posts as they were posted. I understood what TimeBuilder meant.


    Quote Originally Posted by pageyjim View Post
    I would bet that you came in later after he made some edits.
    I do a triple evac with nitro to remove non condensables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBeerme View Post
    No. I saw the posts as they were posted. I understood what TimeBuilder meant.
    There were edits. No big deal right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvacker View Post
    I agree the old timers often had little training and learned by osmosis. Equipment was generally simpler. There were complicated systems also. Specialty systems. Cascade, large absorbers and screws like today but that wasn't typical also like today.
    Information could be scarce and hard to come by. Couldn't Google. So how did someone 40 - 50 years ago find information. Where ever you could.

    Still many would rather be told what and how rather than find out on their own. Probably that hasn't changed. The path of least resistance still holds true for many.
    If you are saying that people are more or less the same and the times and circumstances have changed I would agree.

    Older people love to gripe about the entitled, lazy millennial generation. But it's nothing new by delving into the archives, we found plenty of parallels stretching back 2,000 years.

    https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article...t-young-adults
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    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    Things must be very different in your area.

    I hardly ever run into a seasoned technician. Most of them stopped working in their 40s because of knee problems from climbing a ladder..... and the guys who are good at residential never, ever, go on a roof.
    Residential techs spend less time on a roof to be sure but spend much more time in attics and crawl spaces. Residential work is harder on the body in many ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pageyjim View Post
    If you are saying that people are more or less the same and the times and circumstances have changed I would agree.

    Older people love to gripe about the entitled, lazy millennial generation. But it's nothing new – by delving into the archives, we found plenty of parallels stretching back 2,000 years.

    https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article...t-young-adults
    This reminded of a study where the major amount of the work is done by a small percent of the work force. Some that think they do most all the work might be right. Not just productivity but doing the work well.
    Hiring someone and risking hard won customers is a nail biter.
    Give me a relay with big enough contacts, and I'll run the world!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hvacker View Post
    This reminded of a study where the major amount of the work is done by a small percent of the work force. Some that think they do most all the work might be right. Not just productivity but doing the work well.
    Hiring someone and risking hard won customers is a nail biter.

    Where is the study? Does that have anything to do with the generational thing that has been talked about here? Or is your premise also true generation after generation?
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    This. I am a 3rd year apprentice and I find it amazing how many of my fellow apprentices do not take time at home to study up on material. Everyone seems we to think we are supposed to learn everything on the job. When that is just simply not the world we live in anymore. I would say from the service calls that I go on its 50/50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pageyjim View Post
    Where is the study? Does that have anything to do with the generational thing that has been talked about here? Or is your premise also true generation after generation?
    I posted the study either here or another forum. I look around. I haven't stated a premise, just mentioned the study and how it seemed to fit my experiences. I would tend to think the attributes are more of a human kind than generational. Most people don't leave the gate running as far as work goes. Most have to learn to work along with learning the job. Hi 5 for the fast food industry.
    Give me a relay with big enough contacts, and I'll run the world!

    You can be anything you want......As long as you don't suck at it.

    If a person wants to create a machine that will be more likely to fail...Make it complicated.

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    I actually have a human error problem. The person that owned my home before me also installed his own furnace. Pretty sure he wasnt licensed to do so but was an apprentice at a local HVAC place and so they let him? Anyway, whomever installed my furnace broke all the connectors that the condensation trap is connected to and then hot glued the condensation trap onto my unit. This causes incorrect drainage and water backs up into my pressure switch. Every season I have to clean everything out (which I should do anyway, I know) and then blow air (with my mouth) into the pressure switch to jump start my heater into working. Usually I only have to do this once or twice a winter, but its getting so that I have to do this every few days now so I want to replace all the broken parts to fix the problem. Ive already purchased a condensation trap but can I buy the piece that its connected to? What is it called? Everything Ive read says its called a collection box, but I dont know if thats right. Also, it looks like you have to basically take apart the whole unit to put it on, so is that even a project I can do or should I call on a professional? I would love to be able to call a repair person to take all this off my hands but unfortunately Im broke and work like this is expensive. Anything I can do by myself is my first option. Thanks for your help, Ill also probably post this on its own thread just Incase I get no responses.

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    In this case, you get a qualified tech to take the pieces apart and do it right. There are techniques for making these corrections.

    Ask three friends whom they have used in the past, and would use again. Friends have accountability. Places like "List" and "Home" do not have personal accountability.
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