Communist CA

[2sac]

CA has new legislation being introduced in multiple districts that will ban natural gas in new construction. All appliances will be electric. My first thought, with PG&E and their planned outages to prevent fires. CA residents are now going to give up hvac, hot water, cooking food, drying clothes, etc. They're going to lose potential manufacturing business that utilize natural gas in their processing, for the good of the state...
Second thought. What about upgrades to the power grid and the costs involved? PG&E currently buys 1/3 of their electricity, almost 1/3 is created from natural gas powered plants, almost 1/3 from coal and water, and less than 10% from wind. The quickest way to get the additional electricity for the grid is to buy it. If I was selling my excess electricity to California, you'd better believe it would be at a premium. The second quickest way to generate the power is from natural gas...wouldn't that negate the carbon footprint?

CA believes their legislation will have an effect on the grand scheme of things, I think. Believe man made global warming or not...and I don't, CA is ****ed. The residents should pray the San Andreas Fault drops them into the Pacific before the legislators **** them in the ass.

[FreddyJ]

I really have no opinion one way or the other... But you peaked my interest... how are California residents giving up hvac, hot water, cooking and drying clothes? I live in Iowa and only have a natural gas water heater and furnace and until a few years ago I was all electric . we cooked and did laundry everyday.. Plus we were always warm and had lots of hot water ...

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[pacnw]

They are fricking morons!!!!!!!

They have not got enough power for what they have now, what makes them think they can "make" more?

[Achso017]

I really have no opinion one way or the other... But you peaked my interest... how are California residents giving up hvac, hot water, cooking and drying clothes? I live in Iowa and only have a natural gas water heater and furnace and until a few years ago I was all electric . we cooked and did laundry everyday.. Plus we were always warm and had lots of hot water ...

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I’m thinking that with the mass planned power outages over the next decade people won’t have access to reliable high wattage power sources unless they use diesel generators. They won’t be able to use natural gas generators as backup. If they had gas stoves and water heaters they would at least be able to use those without power and a small gasoline generator can run a gas furnace to keep heat in a pinch.


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[FreddyJ]

I’m thinking that with the mass planned power outages over the next decade people won’t have access to reliable high wattage power sources unless they use diesel generators. They won’t be able to use natural gas generators as backup. If they had gas stoves and water heaters they would at least be able to use those without power and a small gasoline generator can run a gas furnace to keep heat in a pinch.


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Soooo, I'm kinda ignorant to this .. But. Cali is planning mass power outages in the next decade?

in Iowa utility funded wind farms are popping up all over . Plus it seems like everybody is doing solar, both resi and commercial... I'm sure its still a small part of the population.. But its everywhere... All of the electricians have software to show payback and the utilities offer rebates... However they are reducing them as time goes on

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[Achso017]

Soooo, I'm kinda ignorant to this .. But. Cali is planning mass power outages in the next decade?

in Iowa utility funded wind farms are popping up all over . Plus it seems like everybody is doing solar, both resi and commercial... I'm sure its still a small part of the population.. But its everywhere... All of the electricians have software to show payback and the utilities offer rebates... However they are reducing them as time goes on

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The utility in California, PG&E, was saying that with the current climate models and infrastructure issues they have that they will need to keep shutting off sections of the grid over the next decade to avoid causing wildfires. They may have revised that somewhat but it was mentioned during the latest disruption when 100’s of thousands of homes were without power. It’s kind of nuts how many issues seem to be cropping up in California recently.


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[FreddyJ]

The utility in California, PG&E, was saying that with the current climate models and infrastructure issues they have that they will need to keep shutting off sections of the grid over the next decade to avoid causing wildfires. They may have revised that somewhat but it was mentioned during the latest disruption when 100’s of thousands of homes were without power. It’s kind of nuts how many issues seem to be cropping up in California recently.


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Holy $#!+... I just googled and there are all kinds of articles with pg&e claiming responsibility for the fires...
Ugh... I'm just a filter changer .. But wouldn't it be cheaper to fix your junk utility grid.. I would assume if they r taking credit for the fires they are paying out huge claims.. !!!

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[Achso017]

Holy $#!+... I just googled and there are all kinds of articles with pg&e claiming responsibility for the fires...
Ugh... I'm just a filter changer .. But wouldn't it be cheaper to fix your junk utility grid.. I would assume if they r taking credit for the fires they are paying out huge claims.. !!!

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The title of this thread says all you need to know about why they’re making poor decisions
I’m not into politics much but it astounds me how blind the lawmakers in California seem to be about reality.


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[pacnw]

The title of this thread says all you need to know about why they’re making poor decisions
I’m not into politics much but it astounds me how blind the lawmakers in California seem to be about reality.


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Can't see much when you head is up your
a$$!!!!

Besides, the politicians won't be affected.

[Juan Madera]

Over 700,000 taxpaying citizens left CA last year... More than 50k of them came to NV... Most go to TX and WA... Be prepared for a CA mindset in your home town!