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    Swaging Tools

    Any thoughts on models worth considering? I was looking at the Hilmor compact swage tool kit as one option. Does anyone on here own one and if so any feedback on that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by szw21 View Post
    Any thoughts on models worth considering? I was looking at the Hilmor compact swage tool kit as one option. Does anyone on here own one and if so any feedback on that?
    Have you tried Spin Swage?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGgfye5FESE
    Can someone please explain to me -
    Why is there never enough time to do it right the first time, but plenty of time to do it twice?


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    Quote Originally Posted by joemach View Post
    I have not tried it but am aware of it. It seems to have mixed reviews from what I've read online. I've wondered if the bit can jump out of the pipe and dig into your hand while trying to expand the pipe. The hydraulic type seems safer. Also I wonder if the size of the drill might be an issue if trying to work in a confined space.

    Do you own this and have first hand experience. It seems to be less expensive than the hydraulic type swagers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by szw21 View Post
    I have not tried it but am aware of it. It seems to have mixed reviews from what I've read online. I've wondered if the bit can jump out of the pipe and dig into your hand while trying to expand the pipe. The hydraulic type seems safer. Also I wonder if the size of the drill might be an issue if trying to work in a confined space.

    Do you own this and have first hand experience. It seems to be less expensive than the hydraulic type swagers.
    I have the Spin flare & swage kits. They work great for me. I have not had an issue at all. There are a few different kits which include different sizes, find the one that suites your use best. There is another company that makes a similar spin tools that I do not like as well, I think Rectorseal. I know they have a few bad reviews.

    I am quite happy with the Spin setup.
    Can someone please explain to me -
    Why is there never enough time to do it right the first time, but plenty of time to do it twice?


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    Quote Originally Posted by joemach View Post
    I have the Spin flare & swage kits. They work great for me. I have not had an issue at all. There are a few different kits which include different sizes, find the one that suites your use best. There is another company that makes a similar spin tools that I do not like as well, I think Rectorseal. I know they have a few bad reviews.

    I am quite happy with the Spin setup.
    Thanks for the feedback - I will take a look at this. Once final question I had is - does the tool make well fitting swages - no loose/over expanded swages like you see on some equipment.

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    Watch the video in the above post. Tight swages.
    Can someone please explain to me -
    Why is there never enough time to do it right the first time, but plenty of time to do it twice?


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    Very happy with the Master Kool kit but the angled ones would be appealing if I was buying today.
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    I’ve got the Hilmor and love it. With that and the tubing bender I haven’t had to use a store bought coupling or 90 in over a year.

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    We have the hilmor swage tool and it works quickly and gets in most tight places but the swages are a bit loose and not round. We also have the reactor seal spin swedge kit and my drill was too underpowered for it but eaven with a big enough drill it twists the tubing up more than i cared for.
    We also have the spin flare kit it makes beautiful flares and doesnt twist the pipe.

    With all that tech avalible to me if i have the time and working room i get out the old yellow jacket manual flare and swedge tool and do it by hand. The flares come out wider the swedges are perfectly smooth and tight. It takes me 5 times longer but when i am done i can be proud of my work.

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    I have a mastercool hydraulic flare and swage kit. It is great making swages, excellent fit. However I do not like the flare. It’s difficult to keep the tube at the proper depth in between the two dies while locking them into place. You really need a third hand. I no longer use it for flares, but it works great for swages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by szw21 View Post
    I have not tried it but am aware of it. It seems to have mixed reviews from what I've read online. I've wondered if the bit can jump out of the pipe and dig into your hand while trying to expand the pipe. The hydraulic type seems safer. Also I wonder if the size of the drill might be an issue if trying to work in a confined space.

    Do you own this and have first hand experience. It seems to be less expensive than the hydraulic type swagers.
    I have both the spin flare and swage kits and there is precisely 0.00001% chance of that happening, on the other hand, burns from how hot it gets can be a slight problem. But other than that, they are amazing and compact! Two thumbs up 👍👍

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    I've been using the Rothenberger Rocam Expander set for the longest while now. There is an adjustment for the swage gap. Made in Germany.

    The hydraulic expanders are more compact and can fit into tighter spaces, but hasn't been an issue for me yet.

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    I have the Hilmore and it works great.


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