Compare viscosity of page 4 to page 6 of this msds
http://www.nucalgon.com/assets/SDS/E...8D_SDS_ENG.PDF
I found an Australian web site that sells hydrocarbon refrigerants and it also has an oil listed that i haven't been able to identify.
It is called SRO500
Any ideas what kind it is?
https://hychill.com.au/products/SRO500
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Compare viscosity of page 4 to page 6 of this msds
http://www.nucalgon.com/assets/SDS/E...8D_SDS_ENG.PDF
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So that is a pve oil. With iso viscosity of about 68. Are you saying wou think that hychill sro 500 is pve oil?
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Sro has 69* higher flashpoint and a higher viscosity index. So it is not the same exact oil but i wonder if it could be pve?
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Yes I was just pointing out the similarities I haven’t used either one. I haven’t heard of any other oil new to the market other than pve,but with the new refrigerants coming out daily I’m sure it’s just a matter.
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I am thinking it must be pve. They shure claim it is the wonder oil for everything.
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One problem.
Pve is 4 times more hygroscopic then Poe oil and sro 500 claims to be virtually non hygroscopic.
It must be made by pressing snakes to extract the oil.
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They would work fine with mineral oil. I am just trying to figure out what that oil is because it claims to be synthetic not hygroscopic and compatible with r134a and all other avalible refrigerants.
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All of those refrigerants seem to be blends of r600a and r290
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Well i was so curious that i emailed the manufacturer and amazingly they replied.
SRO 500 is polyalphaolefin (PAO)
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PAO is a group 3 synthetic AKA synthetic mineral oil. I wonder how miscible it actually is with hfc refrigerants.
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Did tou get a supplier did they mention the +-
Honeywell you can buy better but you cant pay more
I told my wife when i die to sell my fishing stuff for what its worth not what i told her i paid for it
"Is this before or after you fired the parts cannon at it?" - senior tech
I'm tired of these mediocre "semi flammable" refrigerants. If we're going to do it let's do it right.
Unless we change direction we are likely to end up where we are going.
"It's not new, it's better than new!" Maru.
"Is this before or after you fired the parts cannon at it?" - senior tech
I'm tired of these mediocre "semi flammable" refrigerants. If we're going to do it let's do it right.
Unless we change direction we are likely to end up where we are going.
"It's not new, it's better than new!" Maru.
"Is this before or after you fired the parts cannon at it?" - senior tech
I'm tired of these mediocre "semi flammable" refrigerants. If we're going to do it let's do it right.
Unless we change direction we are likely to end up where we are going.
"It's not new, it's better than new!" Maru.
I have not found a local supplier but they told me i can email them and order direct.
As to the positives and negatives i am still working on that.
They say it can be used safely with any current refrigerant. The thing that worries me about how they say that is they just say that it's safe they don't say that it's miscible.
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Here is their spiel.
"SRO 500 Synthetic Refrigerant Oil is a fully synthetic industrial lubricant developed specifically for auto air conditioning compressors.
It is especially formulated for severe service under conditions that are beyond the capabilities of conventional mineral oils. It is compatible with all commonly used refrigerants, and does not absorb moisture. Ideal replacement for Polyolester (POE) and Polyalkyleneglycol (PAG) lubricant, and superior to both.
Features and benefits
Improved wear protection
Virtually non- hygroscopic
Improved system efficiency
Non toxic
Ideal vacuum pump oil
Prevents oil deposit formation in low temperature systems
Reduces discharge valve deposits and improves compressor efficiency
Very low pour point, zero wax content
High viscosity index and high temperature stability
Greater chemical stability in the presence of refrigerants
Low volatility and low solubility for refrigerants such as R12 & ammonia.
Compatible with all commonly used refrigerants
Compatible with most refrigeration and air conditioning applications
Miscible with all other refrigerant oils
Does not affect commonly used O Rings, Gaskets or Seals
Does not combine with moisture to cause internal corrosion in fluorocarbon systems
Compatibility
SRO 1000 and SRO 500 are the ideal lubricants for maximum efficiency in all applications.They can also be safely used in all systems, with all refrigerants including: R11, R12, R13b, HCFC-22, R123a, HFC-134a, R404A, R401a, R502, R22, R400+, R717 (ammonia), R600a (isobutane) and R290 (propane).
Suitable for all applications
SRO 500 Refrigerant Oil is suitable for reciprocating compressors with very high operating temperatures, suitable for screw compressors, and for use with systems incorporating very low evaporator temperatures. It is compatible with other synthetic and mineral oils and is suitable to with all common refrigerants, including ammonia.
SRO 500 is suitable for use in all motor vehicle air conditioning applications. Compatible with all commonly used lubricants and refrigerant types, also with all modern seal, gasket and hose materials; SRO 500 is the ideal oil for service applications. SRO 500 is non- hygroscopic giving you confidence that it will not carry moisture into systems where it can combine with fluorocarbon molecules to cause rapid corrosion. SRO 500 also prevents seal deterioration which is often a factor in R134a systems.
Economical
SRO 500 and SRO 1000 have a unique formula to minimise oil logging of heat exchangers, maximising heat rejection, improving system efficiency and reducing energy costs.
Virtually Non-Hygroscopic
Moisture reduces lubrication performance, and ice may form at low pressure points. Moisture also reacts with the refrigerant gas creating acid which attacks components, motor windings and generally shortens the life of the compressor. SRO 500 is virtually non-hygroscopic, which means parts will have longer life and need fewer oil changes.
Non-Toxic
Unlike other oils, SR0 500 is non-toxic. This makes the product easy to handle and either recycle or dispose of."
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"It's not new, it's better than new!" Maru.