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    ........Dont build on the ocean front

    Dont build on a island

    You rent those from other peoples to make the wife happy

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    Quote Originally Posted by contactor View Post
    People cause 80% + fire; cigarettes, gas powered tools, hot mufflers, welding, fireworks, campfires etc. The timing has to do with dryness and winds
    I know that, but look when and how they start, I'm getting suspicious.

    And I think people in California are more then aware of fires and not to spark crap, but then again, it is California.. lol.

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    Radical Muslims did it ....

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    Democrats can't be trusted with matches.
    “Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolwhip View Post
    Democrats can't be trusted with matches.
    LOL!

    Or..... fast bicycles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coolwhip View Post
    Democrats can't be trusted with matches.
    Know you're making a joke but there's lots of pyros in Cali. Years ago mountain biking along the river with my kids below San Vicente Dam I saw a funny looking balloon & sent my son off through dense chaparral to see what it was. It was a arson device. Took it home, stewed in anger for a few minutes, called Fire Dept & they were at my home in 10 minutes asking all kinds of questions.



    Quote Originally Posted by contactor View Post
    People cause 80% + fire; cigarettes, gas powered tools, hot mufflers, welding, fireworks, campfires etc. The timing has to do with dryness and winds
    Sure y'all have heard Cali has a YUGE illegal immigration & homeless problem. Many fires are started by cooking fires getting out of control at illegal's & homeless camps but our elected officials are reluctant to say so because they'll be vilified, labeled as a racist.

    Have asked firemen at the stations & causes haven't been identified as of yet except for one. An overheated car at the termination of a car chase is to blame for one
    fire.


    To try & answer your question Roy in a overly long rant.




    California is a state of extremes. From Sierra Nevada's Mt. Whitney, tallest in lower 48, to Bad Water Basin, lowest in Death Valley. From loney wack-a-doodle leftists in large coastal cities to raging rednecks inland our seasons & weather are no different.

    We swing from YUGE wet winters flooding everything to devastating droughts. Last winter we have a very wet winter. End of last summer stopped to photograph empty reservoirs driving out Azuza Canyon to Fire Camp 19. By end of winter rains they were having to release water. As a result there was tremendous growth in fuel. LA County Fire has a department along with Cal Fire to study & quantify fuel to try & predict fires.

    Southern Cali has a weather pattern every year starting about the end of summer called Santa Ana Winds. Large high pressure zones in the desert south west drives high winds & extreme low humidity. We've had 50-70 mph winds with gusts to 80 mph & humidity in the single digits. For those that don't know winds nearing 80mph is enough to lift you off your feet.

    Fire tends to travel uphill & Southern Cali is very hilly especially nearing mountain foothills. With such low humidity, abundant extremely dry fuel, a source of heat & 50+ mph winds stoking small embers to flame, a tiny fire can alarmingly, quickly become an out of control brush fire. Driving to fire stations in the Santa Monica Mts above Malibu I still see burnt out homes.

    About 15 years ago when water started getting expensive I killed my front lawn using saved LA Times newspaper held down & covered with thick layer of bark. I planted California natives that only required a little water the first year to get established. I took the no watering to extreme & over the years had bare patches. Many drought tolerant natives have waxy leaf coating or high oil content making them very flamable. Fire is a natural process required for many plants to repropagate.
    Late winter this year I planted more natives but first I asked Vegetative Management to print out a LA County Fire study on flamability & selected high flowering, low fire risk plants.


    Apologize for the long post. I hate self indulgent long posts.
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    A man is no less a slave because he is allowed to choose a new master once in a term of years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by biodieselman View Post
    Know you're making a joke but there's lots of pyros in Cali. Years ago mountain biking along the river with my kids below San Vicente Dam I saw a funny looking balloon & sent my son off through dense chaparral to see what it was. It was a arson device. Took it home, stewed in anger for a few minutes, called Fire Dept & they were at my home in 10 minutes asking all kinds of questions.





    Sure y'all have heard Cali has a YUGE illegal immigration & homeless problem. Many fires are started by cooking fires getting out of control at illegal's & homeless camps but our elected officials are reluctant to say so because they'll be vilified, labeled as a racist.

    Have asked firemen at the stations & causes haven't been identified as of yet except for one. An overheated car at the termination of a car chase is to blame for one
    fire.


    To try & answer your question Roy in a overly long rant.




    California is a state of extremes. From Sierra Nevada's Mt. Whitney, tallest in lower 48, to Bad Water Basin, lowest in Death Valley. From loney wack-a-doodle leftists in large coastal cities to raging rednecks inland our seasons & weather are no different.

    We swing from YUGE wet winters flooding everything to devastating droughts. Last winter we have a very wet winter. End of last summer stopped to photograph empty reservoirs driving out Azuza Canyon to Fire Camp 19. By end of winter rains they were having to release water. As a result there was tremendous growth in fuel. LA County Fire has a department along with Cal Fire to study & quantify fuel to try & predict fires.

    Southern Cali has a weather pattern every year starting about the end of summer called Santa Ana Winds. Large high pressure zones in the desert south west drives high winds & extreme low humidity. We've had 50-70 mph winds with gusts to 80 mph & humidity in the single digits. For those that don't know winds nearing 80mph is enough to lift you off your feet.

    Fire tends to travel uphill & Southern Cali is very hilly especially nearing mountain foothills. With such low humidity, abundant extremely dry fuel, a source of heat & 50+ mph winds stoking small embers to flame, a tiny fire can alarmingly, quickly become an out of control brush fire. Driving to fire stations in the Santa Monica Mts above Malibu I still see burnt out homes.

    About 15 years ago when water started getting expensive I killed my front lawn using saved LA Times newspaper held down & covered with thick layer of bark. I planted California natives that only required a little water the first year to get established. I took the no watering to extreme & over the years had bare patches. Many drought tolerant natives have waxy leaf coating or high oil content making them very flamable. Fire is a natural process required for many plants to repropagate.
    Late winter this year I planted more natives but first I asked Vegetative Management to print out a LA County Fire study on flamability & selected high flowering, low fire risk plants.


    Apologize for the long post. I hate self indulgent long posts.
    Nice post.

    But on the topic of lawns,... has anyone considered lava ash? Even the black stuff never gets hot in the sun, I have worked on some roofs with it. We have some lawns with it here, fairly rare.

    Don't burn and never needs mowing?
    "You boys are really making this thing harder than it has to be". Me

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    "I am not here to rescue you, I am bringing you along for emergency rations" Quark.

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    Yea Roy, Then there's the stupid arsonists. That may explain the rest of the "unkosherness"
    never say never

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    Vacuum Technology:
    CRUD = Contamination Resulting in Undesirable Deposits.
    CRAPP = Contamination Resulting in Additional Partial Pressure.

    Change your vacuum pump oil now.

    Test. Testing, 1,2,3.

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    If only we knew back when what we know now.

    As a nation we've been too successful fighting forest fires especially here in California. We've intrupted the natural cycle of fire & regrowth allowing far too much fuel to accumulate. Our National Park System now understands this & I've been camping at Yosemite & Sequoia natl parks during off season to avoid tourists & watched the Forest Service starting fires to clear under growth allowing 1st gen small fast growing native wildflowers requiring fire to germinate.

    California native vegetation evolved to survive fire, many are dependent on fire. Waxy & high oil content leaves burn hot but fast. 300' tall redwood trees have fire resistant bark up to two feet thick & giant sequoia has bark up to three feet thick. Oak trees have multiple ways to survive fire. BTW redwoods have been around for over 110 million years when dinosaurs roamed & Cali has more oak species than the rest of the world combined. The key is a flash of high heat that quickly burns out & is gone. The natural rate of lightning strike caused fires is about every 12-20 years.

    The nickname 'The Golden State' didn't come from the Gold Rush it came from evasive non-native grass seeds settlers brought from Europe for their imported livestock to graze. Evasive grasses that has displaced many native plants by faster growth dries out quicker early summer & more volatile/easily ignited, larger surface area per volume yet burns for longer periods.



    Non-native grasses which are more easily ignited, burn longer & more importantly disrupted the natural 12-20 fire cycle to burning darn near every damn year is what we're now seeing. These prolonged burn times can melt aluminum engine blocks, wheels & transmissions. Several of the fire stations & camps have souvenirs of cooled aluminum puddles.




    ATTN: Roy. Took a building codes class years ago at San Diego Mesa College taught by San Diego's head Chief Civil Engineer. He asked the class 'which structure is stronger in a fire, a wood frame or steel frame structure?'. Wood buildings are stronger because even though the outside wood is burnt the remaining wood core still has more strength than metal because allthough steel doesn't burn steel softens destroying its load bearing strength.

    LA County Fire Dept is facing a crisis. We have 9 Black Hawk helocopters that are rapidly approaching the maximum flight hours FAA regs mandate complete tear down for inspection & repair.

    Apologize again for long post.
    Last edited by biodieselman; 11-02-2019 at 06:48 PM.
    Sorry men, two meme limit.

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    Now THAT is one of the better political cartoons I have seen in a while!
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    i say burn baby burn
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