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    Isnít all foreign aid supposed to be quid pro quo?

    by Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) 24 Oct 2019
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    We give you this aid ó on the expectation that you will not steal any of it for personal use, that you will spend it as we instruct, and on the understanding that if you donít spend the money as we command, you wonít get any more next year.

    Democrats want people to be alarmed by a Latin phrase, but, really, making foreign aid contingent on behavior is actually the defining reason that countries supposedly give aid ó to influence the behavior of the receiving country.

    For example, for our military aid, we demand that it be spent buying from the American military-industrial complex. Foreign countries are legally bound to use the money we give them to buy armaments from American manufacturers.

    Likewise, we often demand government reforms and an end to corruption. Sometimes we have demanded specific actions, such as when former Vice President Joe Biden demanded the prosecutor looking into his sonís company be fired.

    So, really, ďquid pro quoĒ seems to be the norm rather than the exception.

    The Ex-Im Bank loans money to foreign entities ó the quid ó and demands that the foreigners buy American-made goods ó the quo.

    But Democrats opine that Trump made foreign aid (welfare) contingent on investigating a potential rival, which makes the whole quid pro quo exchange somehow an impeachable offense.

    But Iíve yet to hear Democrats complain about the money (quid) that Hillary Clinton paid foreign spy Christopher Steele to get dirt (the quo) on her political opponent ó Donald Trump.

    Do Democrats really believe they can sweep the quid pro quo of Hillary Clinton and Christopher Steele under the rug and ignore it?

    The Senate should immediately commence public hearings that parallel the House hearings. The Senate hearings should investigate the quid pro quo of Hillary Clinton transferring money to a foreign spy in exchange for the Steele dossier.

    Hillary Clinton should be compelled to answer under oath: was there a quid pro quo?

    Former CIA head and current Trump-hater John Brennan should be summoned and asked: ďDid you contact any foreign spy agencies or agents (active or retired) to investigate then-candidate Donald Trump?Ē Was there a quid pro quo?

    Former FBI head and current Trump-hater James Comey should be summoned and asked: ďDid the FBI exchange money with a foreign spy to collect information on candidate Donald Trump?Ē Was there a quid pro quo?

    If Democrats want the American people to believe Donald Trump did something wrong in asking Ukraine to investigate the $50,000 a month that Hunter Biden was receiving, they will first have to admit that their fearless leader Hillary Clinton actually did much worse by paying a foreign spy, Christopher Steele, money for dirt on Trump.

    To convince the American public that their impeachment inquiry is anything other than empty partisanship, the Democrats will also have to admit that the Obama administration ginned up and purposefully spread the now-discredited Steele dossier. Democrats will further have to admit that Robert Muellerís $35 million investigation found the Steele dossier to be pure fiction.

    When the Democrats admit that they have committed ďquid pro quoĒ a dozen times in trying to entrap President Trump, then, and only then, will American voters consider their impeachment inquiry anything other than a witch hunt.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...he-status-quo/
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    Extortion for dirt on a political opponent for personal gain is illegal and grounds for impeachment. Definitely a matter of national security. Lock him up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ksefan View Post
    Extortion for dirt on a political opponent for personal gain is illegal and grounds for impeachment. Definitely a matter of national security. Lock him up.
    Non sequitur.
    Extortion.The money was our not thiers
    Non sequitur
    Hunter is not a political opponent.

    Try again




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    Asking a foreign government to investigate any American citizen is wrong. I would think our government has more investigative power than most other countries combined. The idea of it is completely stupid.

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    I am completely blown away at what the left and the media(same thing) have been able to pull off.

    This is freaking nuts. A president that asked a country to get a handle on the rampant corruption has turned into this. A country that we not only give billions to every year, but recently "lost" several billions. Poof. Gone.

    You guys on ARP, and the rest of the country who are buying into this phone call/impeachment thing have lost your damn minds. You are suckers. You are chumps. You are lemmings. You have been brainwashed.

    Democrat corruption in Ukraine was at mind blowing levels. The guy that Biden got fired was trying desperately to blow that whistle. He handed over proof to the US embassy to try to shine a light on it. Anyone remember that ambassador that got fired? She and others squashed that proof of Democrat corruption. They smeared the guy and created a narrative that he was crooked to have an excuse to get him fired. Biden himself demanded the guy get fired "or else we withhold money." Joe son was in the middle of all the corruption getting payed off.

    How is on freaking tape demanding the whistle blower, A REAL WOSTEL BLOWER!, get fired or the USA would wohold money...... And you guys have bought into a sinister plot to get Trump impeached for telling them he wants them to look into it. And Trump didn't even bring up withholding anything!! We have the transcript of the phone call.

    How is that Trumps fault. Trump demanded sunlight. He demanded investigations. How is it Trumps fault Hunter and Joe were neck deep in it, along with the DNC, other democrats and deep staters.

    Now the knives are out for Trump on a trumped up impeachment charge.

    Anyone notice Pencil Neck has moved away from quid pro quo and shifting to obstruction? Can't you people put it together? Why are you so freaking stupid. Can't you see what the democrats, the media(same thing) and the deep state are doing? You followed along like the good puppets you are. Why would you support this? Hell you aren't only supporting it, you morons are a critical cog in this machine.

    My God! Open you eyes. How aren't you ashamed? I know netsalt has no conscience, but what about the rest of you?

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    Must be a huge conspiracy making trump say and do stupid things.

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    For guys like Gary and kse
    ďFree men do not ask permission to bear arms.Ē
    -Possibly said by Thomas Jefferson(but true even if he didn't)


    ďWhat one generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace.Ē
    ― Definitely said by John Wesley

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    Quote Originally Posted by ksefan View Post
    Asking a foreign government to investigate any American citizen is wrong. I would think our government has more investigative power than most other countries combined. The idea of it is completely stupid.
    Chump.

    You are a dutiful chump.

    It's exactly what we need.

    What we don't need is politicians telling a foreign government to STOP investigating Democrat corruption and demanding the firing of the guy that uncovered it. Corruption which their son was neck deep in. And if they don't do those things billions in aid with be withheld.
    ďFree men do not ask permission to bear arms.Ē
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    ďWhat one generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace.Ē
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    Quote Originally Posted by ksefan View Post
    Must be a huge conspiracy making trump say and do stupid things.
    Ok, so tell me, who did you vote for ??

    Roy
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    Quote Originally Posted by ksefan View Post
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    Asking a foreign government to investigate any American citizen is wrong.
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    I would think our government has more investigative power than most other countries combined.
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    The idea of it is completely stupid.
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    Who else you gonna ask if they are over there?
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    And that makes a difference how?
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    Not at all see number one.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ksefan View Post
    Must be a huge conspiracy making trump say and do stupid things.
    And this enhances your other silly responses Ironically



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    Quote Originally Posted by royc View Post
    Ok, so tell me, who did you vote for ??

    Roy
    (S)he was highly supportive of Cummings...I am gonna guess the individual voted for Hillary because.
    Open borders.
    Expand limitless Muslims coming over.
    The people at Benghazi needed to die.
    16 billion missing.
    She uses private servers even while she was instructed six times to stop.
    China.. Russia and a couple other nations downloaded the contents of that server.
    All emails were being forward to two foreign addresses as well.
    This doesn't happen by accident.
    Conclusion this individual is just like Hillary




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    Quote Originally Posted by Missouri Guy View Post
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    Who else you gonna ask if they are over there?
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    And that makes a difference how?
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    Not at all see number one.


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    Again, I'm amazed people can be such chumps. To not see what's going on here. But then to be an active pivotal cog in this madness.

    It's amazing. And they should be ashamed they have been so easily propagandized.

    And I didn't mean to "like" kse's post. I hit the "like" accidently and taptalk doesn't let you remove it.

    BTW, if Biden gets elected(not gong to happen), shouldn't he be impeached? He's on video explaining how he actually did what Trump is wrongly accused of. He put USA political pressure and the threat of withholding tax payer funded aid to Ukraine if they didn't destroy the reputation of an actual whistleblower. And to get the investigation into Democrat party involved corruption squashed.

    But we(the people who aren't chumps) know this will never happen. The deep state won't let it happen.

    Another funny part is guys like corny, Gary, netsalt, ksefan all say we are crazy to think there is a deep state. Not only has that fact finally been admitted to, there is a "deep state"...... but those guys I mentioned are actually a players in the deep state. Without their blind loyalty, the "deep state" couldn't exist. They are card carrying members and they are too stupid to see it.

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