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    Quote Originally Posted by garyed View Post
    If you don't think that bribing a foreign country with military weapons in order to have a political opponent ahead of you in the polls investigated then there is no need for any investigation. The investigation of Trump would be to find out whether that is true or not or if any abuse of power may have transpired. There is a difference between Trump investigating a crime & Trump having a foreign country investigate a political rival. If you can't see that then there is no way anything I say is going to make sense to you.
    Hunter is not a political opponent.
    Your argument is crushed right there.
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    I mean it is a foreign country...who else you gonna ask besides the foreigners?
    There is no Bribery .
    Bribery is to pay to overlook a crime...you know like poppa Joe did for Hunter.
    Bribery is not asking someone to investigate a crime...Geeze
    Typical liberal Gary
    Poppa Joe actually obstructed justice
    Poppa Joe bribed foreign officials to stop the prosecution of his son.
    Trump did what again?





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    Quote Originally Posted by royc View Post
    Anyone give me one reason why this needs to be behind closed doors.

    I don't have no problem some not being happy about Trump, but in secretive ways.??

    That's not American, that's something so un American, I cant hardly believe some in here think that ok.

    Some of you act like Nazi's.

    Roy
    Right.
    We heard the call.
    There is nothing to investigate...either it's OK or not OK.

    Let's say you made a call to your neighbor and said you were going to break his leg....There is nothing to investigate...it's either ok or not ok to say that to the neighbor.

    The secrecy here Roy is trying to figure how a way to try an impeachment while protecting the Bidens...It's not an investigation.. it's planning .
    Trump done nothing wrong though.
    Hunter is not a political opponent.




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    The whole “they are doing it behind closed door” argument is rubbish. Congress routinely has both closed and open door testimony from the same witnesses to avoid top secret information getting out. Right now they are just seeing if there is an impeachable offense they can prove and are doing the interviews in a setting where the witnesses can speak freely and completely.

    Now, if they proceed with actual impeachment without providing evidence to the public, i’ll scream and shout with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garyed View Post
    Here is an interesting article: https://www.wthrockmorton.com/2019/1...-closed-doors/
    I didn't do any research so i admit the newspaper article from 1974 could be false but on the surface it looks legit.
    The professor who wrote the article today is obviously very liberal so I'm not trying to use the article itself as much as the photo of the headlines from 1974.
    The Clinton impeachment started with closed door meetings also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by netsalt View Post
    The Clinton impeachment was based on the Whitewater investigation. Witnesses were interviewed behind closed doors, documents were collected from relevant agencies, and then a final report was presented to Congress.

    The Nixon impeachment process began with weeks of closed-door hearings to gather evidence to present to Congress.

    Why is Trump immune?
    What's to investigate...you heard the call.
    We have a whistle blower in this case..what he says now really doesn't matter..
    We have the call... interview witnesses for what?



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    MG, do you think you're going to get an honest answer?
    “Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by netsalt View Post
    What rules of the House have the Dems broken?
    Obstruction of Justice.
    Hampering an investigation...it's the same thing Joe did to protect little Hunter
    Now the Dems are just continuing that when Trump tried to get the hunter crimes going again



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    Quote Originally Posted by Missouri Guy View Post
    What's to investigate...you heard the call.
    We have a whistle blower in this case..what he says now really doesn't matter..
    We have the call... interview witnesses for what?
    Do you think it would be a crime if Trump held up military aid for Ukraine until Ukraine investigated Biden? I sure would, bribery, abuse of power... not sure, but again I am not a lawyer to say which would be more applicable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidadavis View Post
    The whole “they are doing it behind closed door” argument is rubbish. Congress routinely has both closed and open door testimony from the same witnesses to avoid top secret information getting out. Right now they are just seeing if there is an impeachable offense they can prove and are doing the interviews in a setting where the witnesses can speak freely and completely.

    Now, if they proceed with actual impeachment without providing evidence to the public, i’ll scream and shout with you.
    Too secret lol.
    The phone call and transcript was released to the public.
    See if it's an impeachment offense?

    What did Trump do again?..asked a foreign official to investigate a crime that used Govt funds to Get the prosecutor fired in regard to that crime.
    Ok... so it was Joe's boy...if it had not been Joe's boy.. They would be all over it.
    So let's do it this way
    John Smith bribes a foreign Govt to protect his boy.. he uses Govt funds to do this..
    You don't know Joe Smith or His boy either.
    You ask the Foreign leader to tell you about these crimes the boy did
    The boy would be in trouble...the father later in trouble as well.
    As we can see from above...and govt official would love to go after that case.
    But nope...you and your ilk are protecting Biden...and Trying to impeach the man you hate so much.
    Protect the swamp creatures David...Those creatures are not your friends...they don't work for you... They don't care about you.
    And now we have swamp creatures protecting swamp creatures and you guys think it's great and are also protecting them... Disgusting.





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    Quote Originally Posted by coolwhip View Post
    MG, do you think you're going to get an honest answer?
    I doubt it...but I can't let them protecting the swamp creatures go unchecked



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    Quote Originally Posted by davidadavis View Post
    The Clinton impeachment started with closed door meetings also.
    After doing a little research I found that the Benghazi investigation of Hillary was started behind closed doors also.
    It is evidently not uncommon to hold closed door hearings during an investigation.
    Another thing is that there are plenty of Republican house members in the closed door sessions to ask the witnesses questions so it's not politically secretive as we're being made to believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidadavis View Post
    Do you think it would be a crime if Trump held up military aid for Ukraine until Ukraine investigated Biden? I sure would, bribery, abuse of power... not sure, but again I am not a lawyer to say which would be more applicable.
    And here we are again David...he asked about Hunter..not Joe.
    And even if it was Joe it doesn't matter...you have to be a opponent..not a rival.
    And if that wasn't enough.. Govt crimes are not excluded from investigation. even if they were both on the ballot.
    Come on man... That would be a free ticket to do anything you wanted.. Transfer this 209 billion right here to my sister.. no one can say anything because I am running for office...
    And again he didn't even ask about Joe.
    Again he did not even ask about Joe.
    Geeez
    At this point Joe is not on the ballot..Nor Trump for that matter...can't you guys just accept the truth
    So even if it was Joe it wouldn't matter.
    Do you guys get it... understand yet?
    ...but what do I expect from a Bernie supporters



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    Quote Originally Posted by Missouri Guy View Post
    And here we are again David...he asked about Hunter..not Joe.
    And even if it was Joe it doesn't matter...you have to be a opponent..not a rival.
    And if that wasn't enough.. Govt crimes are not excluded from investigation. even if they were both on the ballot.
    Come on man... That would be a free ticket to do anything you wanted.. Transfer this 209 billion right here to my sister.. no one can say anything because I am running for office...
    And again he didn't even ask about Joe.
    Again he did not even ask about Joe.
    Geeez
    At this point Joe is not on the ballot..Nor Trump for that matter...can't you guys just accept the truth
    So even if it was Joe it wouldn't matter.
    Do you guys get it... understand yet?
    ...but what do I expect from a Bernie supporters
    What is hilarious about this is that what Joe is supposedly guilty of, not recessing himself from a conflict of interest, his son Hunter. Is exactly what Trump is guilty of, not recessing himself from investigating Biden, when Biden is his political rival.

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