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    Quote Originally Posted by Snapperhead View Post
    Ahh the early 2000's was basically working on late 90's vehicles just out of warranty

    So we ended up with GD spark plugs blowing out the GD heads and you spend hours trying to re-thread them

    Exhaust bolts break off for no GD reason

    Spark plugs breaking when trying to REMOVE them ... pfffft , really ??

    Oxygen sensors short out throwing all kinds of codes and you have no idea where to begin ...

    Ball joints and tie rods lasted 1 year

    Intake gaskets were made of shit paper

    Oh ... GMs worst mistake was the Cadillac Northstar ..... the GD head bolts pull the GD threads out of the block and were 2 feet long

    Fords 6.0 would eat injection pumps for lunch and cost 1 arm and 2 cousins

    Then you have VW and Audi who cannot design a GD wiring harness to save their lives , having all kinds of shorts throughout the car forcing you to remove the whole GD interior hunting it down

    But yes ... vehicles will go 300,000 miles now if you change the oil and AF frequently
    It was no fun indeed ...we mustnt forget leaking heater cores or evaporators we already hated to change..some become more difficult and the pieces upon removal took up as much room as the vehicle itself!!! Two Bays now taken up !!! With 11 different fasteners
    Leaky boots on the front wheels drives...hey I can't get this grease off me..it's permanent alright.... This will look wonderful while I am eating steak tonight
    The new danger of airbag deployment.
    Alarm systems... Great now I have to go outside and try to turn that off... Why did he turn it on... No one is going to steal it lol.
    Have to bleed some coolant systems or the coolant will drop when thermostat finally opens..Or overheat on them after they take possession. Might spend thirty minutes getting one full.
    What... I can't reuse these headbolts and they cost a fortune..now the customer thinks I am ripping him off...he wont be back
    I was dropping a tank for the fuel pump on an Audi once... just to find out I could get to it from the trunk!!..lift carpet and there is the access.

    Have to disconnect the battery for everything ...it's a side terminally and the bolt is often rounded off...Thanks GM a half inch wrench would have been beautiful for this...but nope two cents per vehicle adds up

    I can't see the starter...Changing it is not going to be an enjoyable day... Ghetto headliner in your hair as soon as you get in the drivers seat.

    I once spent four hours changing a heater hose on one of those small Oldsmobiles... I was awful close to seeing if I could rent a famished Chinese child with very small arms.

    Why are all my wires an inch to short I can't get none of this stuff plugged back in without stress on the wires..Thanks GM.
    Why do you think your assemblers keep going on strike..they don't like all the changes either.








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    Quote Originally Posted by pageyjim View Post
    It was meant for his current condition. Maybe it would have been better to quote his first post but it was long etc.

    With his problem of back firing out of the intake don't you think what I suggested would be appropriate and easy things to check?

    Backfiring out of the intake is many times caused by too much air. How do you get too much air? By getting not enough fuel or too much air right?
    Well yes... wrestling the battery distributor and timing chain creates alot of chance for inadvertently damaging or knocking something else loose



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    Quote Originally Posted by Snapperhead View Post

    But yes ... vehicles will go 300,000 miles now if you change the oil and AF frequently
    It is very common to see Chrysler based Cherokee Jeeps for sale in that mileage range and beyond ..interiors are kinda cramped ... But Many of them run great considering the weight they are pulling and that they are four wheel drive I been waiting to find a good deal on one with low mileage.. but people around here keep em until they wear em out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missouri Guy View Post
    I was dropping a tank for the fuel pump on an Audi once... just to find out I could get to it from the trunk!!..lift carpet and there is the access.


    yup .... Got that t-shirt

    So you are left standing there pissed off .... and happy at the same time , because Finally they made access to it !!

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    Have you ever completed a big job .... look down to see a part laying there ... and you realize you have to take the whole thing back apart

    Worst one was a C-4 transmission , saw that thrust washer laying there and I may have actually shed a tear

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    Wrestled a PITA oil pan back in the position.... got everything buttoned up..... and saw the oil pump sitting there on the bench.
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    In the late nineties, the Park Avenue chassis also had a trunk access to the fuel pump sender assembly.
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    I have heard that Evil-Lucas reference all my life but initially I almost exclusively drove English sports cars and it was never true for me. I always found Lucas electrics basic and simple and easy to diagnose and repair. Almost intuitive in fact. And you could 'see' everything. <g>

    One time I took this little girl to a drive-in theater in a Jaguar XKE. Her previous man was an auto mechanic - a rabid Ford or Chevy Man - Hated foreign cars. Towards the end of the film rain started hammering down and people started leaving. We dawdled a bit - just to avoid the crowds you understand - and later; right after I started the car and moved 4-5 feet - every light suddenly went dark. And it was like cave-dark in the car. <g>

    Of course I have no idea what the problem is and less than zero interest in getting out of the cozy car into a cold drenching rain. I don't say that of course - instead I calmly say to her:

    "Hmmmm . . . that's odd, isn't it? Let me see here . . . . "

    I can recall from daylighted-memory that there are two thumb-nuts at the upper corner of the central dash panel. I find those in the pitch darkness and soon find that the panel hinges down - the top swings out and down. When it does a light inside there comes on. Inside there are neat rows of fuse holders - each with a circuit label and . . . . a spare fuse in a little holder.

    "Ahhh . . . Exterior Lights - maybe it's the fuse." So I casually install the spare and all the lights work again.

    "There you go - nothing to it. Those Brits think of everything."


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    That's another point I ponder -

    Mobil 1 is all I have used for quite a while now. My father ran a large oil refinery while it was being developed and some of the wear-tests the lab boys ran with it were long and brutal - only to eventually find have them at or close to zero wear.

    Mobil says that Mobil 1 is good for 15,000 miles - and I well know that that number is very conservative. Modern engines run tight tolerances and are pretty darn clean running. So why should I change the engine oil before 15,000 miles?

    I actually change them all at 10,000 miles - because with multiple vehicles it's easier to keep track of - but I have been thinking of making it 20,000 miles. My Toyota's were built specifically for synthetic oil and hell; they Call for a 10,000 mile oil change interval.

    My brilliant, beautiful, air-brained daughter once ran a 2016 Subaru Legacy without Any oil at all in it for four days. And she drives like an angry moonshiner everywhere she goes. The car had synthetic oil since new. I borrowed her car to go get a new battery for my Tacoma. On the way I saw a little genie-lamp looking emblem lit on the dash. Pulled over and found nothing on the dipstick - not a drop. I called her and she said:

    "Uh yeah; I just had the oil changed. I called and told them about the light and they told me to come back so they could reset that oil change light."

    "When did you have the oil changed?"

    "Friday"

    "I looked in the owner's manual - that's the no-oil-pressure light. And I checked - there's no oil in the engine."

    "There has to be - you must have checked it wrong or something - they just filled the oil. When I had it changed . . . ?"

    "OK; goodbye."

    So I started the SOB and just drove to the gas station. I put four quarts of oil in to get to the Full mark - manual gives the oil capacity at 3.9 quarts. Oh; and filled the gas tank for the loan of the car - I forget the number but apparently there was less than a half gallon in the tank when she gave it to me. <g>

    That engine sounded completely fine both before and after I added the four quarts. All I can think of is: thank God for synthetic oil. Or maybe for God in general - because how the hell can she beat the crap out of a car for four days with no oil in it and have everything come out fine in the end??? <g>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snapperhead View Post
    Ahh the early 2000's was basically working on late 90's vehicles just out of warranty

    So we ended up with GD spark plugs blowing out the GD heads and you spend hours trying to re-thread them

    Exhaust bolts break off for no GD reason

    Spark plugs breaking when trying to REMOVE them ... pfffft , really ??

    Oxygen sensors short out throwing all kinds of codes and you have no idea where to begin ...

    Ball joints and tie rods lasted 1 year

    Intake gaskets were made of shit paper

    Oh ... GMs worst mistake was the Cadillac Northstar ..... the GD head bolts pull the GD threads out of the block and were 2 feet long

    Fords 6.0 would eat injection pumps for lunch and cost 1 arm and 2 cousins

    Then you have VW and Audi who cannot design a GD wiring harness to save their lives , having all kinds of shorts throughout the car forcing you to remove the whole GD interior hunting it down

    But yes ... vehicles will go 300,000 miles now if you change the oil and AF frequently
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snapperhead View Post
    Have you ever completed a big job .... look down to see a part laying there ... and you realize you have to take the whole thing back apart

    Worst one was a C-4 transmission , saw that thrust washer laying there and I may have actually shed a tear
    That would be a rough day there.
    My biggest blunder would be forgetting a vehicle outside running /to be discovered the next morning just a little above empty on the fuel gauge.
    I still don't know how I forgot it...it was dark closing up..so the headlights were on... I walked right past the truck with it running and the headlights on and don't remember it





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    Quote Originally Posted by Snapperhead View Post
    Have you ever completed a big job .... look down to see a part laying there ... and you realize you have to take the whole thing back apart

    Worst one was a C-4 transmission , saw that thrust washer laying there and I may have actually shed a tear
    Not a job that big, but the other day I just finished replacing a blower motor in a Trane 80% downflow (with that stupid door panel and no slip joint). I turned it on and heard a humming noise but no airflow. With a sense of dread I looked down and saw the new capacitor sitting in the pile of tools at my feet.


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    Much respect here for auto mechanics...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Snapperhead View Post
    Have you ever completed a big job .... look down to see a part laying there ... and you realize you have to take the whole thing back apart

    Worst one was a C-4 transmission , saw that thrust washer laying there and I may have actually shed a tear
    Or worse yet, you tear it back down only to find that the part was in there and the one you found was the old one that was clean or a spare from the new pack, etc.

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