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    The irony is Ukraine admitted helping Hillary in the 2016 election but that doesn't count. We need to find out everything we can about corruption in our government even if a bunch of dummycrats end up in the big house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sooty View Post
    Oh I'm sure I'm missing something but it looks to me like the two party system has basically become a blood sport with nobody willing to concede any ground. Even still when the President awards a government contract to himself that should be the end of the line no matter what party you are backing.
    Yes, our political system is a mess at present, but it'll work itself out. I'm sure it looks much worse than it is to you outsiders. Your concern is noted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WAYNE3298 View Post
    The irony is Ukraine admitted helping Hillary in the 2016 election but that doesn't count. We need to find out everything we can about corruption in our government even if a bunch of dummycrats end up in the big house.
    Links?

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    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...ackfire-233446

    Try that on for size. There is plenty more if you really want the truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WAYNE3298 View Post
    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...ackfire-233446

    Try that on for size. There is plenty more if you really want the truth.
    They will ignore it



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    Was reading today that the Impeachment investigation may be digging into more than just the ukraine....
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    Quote Originally Posted by corny View Post
    Was reading today that the Impeachment investigation may be digging into more than just the ukraine....
    The "Impeachment Inquiry" is just Russia Collusion 2.0. Schiff has demonstrated that his priority is to get Trump by hook or crook. He did the same thing in the Mueller inquisition. It's the reason they are conducting their secret session. Carte Blanche to continue the witch hunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by corny View Post
    Was reading today that the Impeachment investigation may be digging into more than just the ukraine....
    So the Ukraine incident is nothing.. so now they can have another illegal investigation(like the wire taps while he was running for office) to try and find something... Got it

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    Quote Originally Posted by WAYNE3298 View Post
    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...ackfire-233446

    Try that on for size. There is plenty more if you really want the truth.
    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidadavis View Post
    thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Missouri Guy View Post
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    Like how everyone is ignoring Trump awarding himself the G7 event? I read the article it's nothing new. Ukraine wasn't super excited to see Pro-Russia Trump win and they were alarmed that Manafort was working with him since Manafort was deeply connected to the previous corrupt government and basically chased out of the country.

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    Looks like the G whatever is off at trumps place.
    Bet the other world leaders have found out about the bed bug problem.

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    Manafort was arrested based on "evidence" created by the use of circular media reporting.

    Mueller probe of Manafort initiated based on fake information
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    The probe by Robert Mueller that put former Trump campaign aide Paul Manafort in prison was initiated using evidence, called “the ledger,” that Mueller knew was unreliable and likely fake.

    In search warrant affidavits, the FBI portrayed the ledger as one reason it resurrected a criminal case against Manafort that was dropped in 2014 and needed search warrants in 2017 for bank records to prove he worked for the Russian-backed Party of Regions in Ukraine.

    There’s just one problem: The FBI’s public reliance on the ledger came months after the feds were warned repeatedly that the document couldn’t be trusted and likely was a fake, according to documents and more than a dozen interviews with knowledgeable sources.

    To get around this fact, which was made very clear to Mueller and his investigators, they leaked the fake data to the press, and then used the press stories to justify the investigation.

    Submitting knowingly false or suspect evidence — whether historical or to support probable cause — in a federal court proceeding violates FBI rules and can be a crime under certain circumstances. “To establish probable cause, the affiant must demonstrate a basis for knowledge and belief that the facts are true,” the FBI operating manual states.

    But with Manafort, the FBI and Mueller’s office did not cite the actual ledger — which would require agents to discuss their assessment of the evidence — and instead cited media reports about it. The feds assisted on one of those stories as sources.

    For example, agents mentioned the ledger in an affidavit supporting a July 2017 search warrant for Manafort’s house, citing it as one of the reasons the FBI resurrected the criminal case against Manafort.

    This is beyond corrupt. I would say that it should be grounds for dismissal for the charges against Manafort, even if he admitted to guilt. At a minimum, Mueller and his cohorts should be facing jail time.

    https://behindtheblack.com/behind-th...e-information/


    FBI, warned early and often that Manafort file might be fake, used it anyway
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    When the final chapter of the Russia collusion caper is written, it is likely two seminal documents the FBI used to justify investigating Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign will turn out to be bunk.
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    The second document, known as the “black cash ledger,” remarkably has escaped the same scrutiny, even though its emergence in Ukraine in the summer of 2016 forced Paul Manafort to resign as Trump's campaign chairman and eventually face U.S. indictment.

    In search warrant affidavits, the FBI portrayed the ledger as one reason it resurrected a criminal case against Manafort that was dropped in 2014 and needed search warrants in 2017 for bank records to prove he worked for the Russian-backed Party of Regions in Ukraine.

    There’s just one problem: The FBI’s public reliance on the ledger came months after the feds were warned repeatedly that the document couldn’t be trusted and likely was a fake, according to documents and more than a dozen interviews with knowledgeable sources.

    For example, Ukraine’s top anticorruption prosecutor, Nazar Kholodnytsky, told me he warned the U.S. State Department’s law enforcement liaison and multiple FBI agents in late summer 2016 that Ukrainian authorities who recovered the ledger believed it likely was a fraud.

    “It was not to be considered a document of Manafort. It was not authenticated. And at that time it should not be used in any way to bring accusations against anybody,” Kholodnytsky said, recalling what he told FBI agents.

    Read the rest:
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