View Poll Results: Please Choose Your Average Award Per Injured/Killed Person:

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  • $10,000

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  • $100,000

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    Quote Originally Posted by BNME8EZ View Post
    A lady is handed a cup of HOT coffee, at least I assume she is a lady, just not very smart. She puts the nonrigid cup of coffee between her legs, which collapses and burns her. She wins a huge settlement against McD's. The company lost all control of that cup the minute it went through her car window, it was in her sole possession for over 30 seconds, maybe close to a minute before the incident happened, so how would it be anyone's fault but her's? This is only one of thousands of suits that have come from liberal juries. A prudent company with deep pockets will drop a lot of money to avoid bad press. Does that answer your question?

    Or you are more than welcome to give us your dissertation on how our courts system only gives out proper verdicts since you act like such an expert.

    Since you instinctually side with the poor victimized mega-corp, why don't you tell us what determined and put the nail in the coffin for McDonalds with that case. Bet you can't.

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    Does anyone know if there has been an actual payout... My research shows that it is just a possible agreement.. and get this MGM has 751 million ins policy.. very close to the amount which is being discussed.. convienant .
    Also does anyone know where that good Vegas thread is.. hard to find with Tapatalk.. there were several interesting finds in there regarding the shooter .. his GF ... And the govt having him under watch.. arms dealing etc.
    If someone can find it can they bump it up

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    GC.... Hopefully this will provide you with some closure.
    Go to section 2 .. then click reasonable care.
    It uses the example of a near sighted person not wearing glasses.... therefore was at fault/ as it is to be reasonable care on her end to wear those glasses to avoid accidents.
    With your case... Not looking ahead is not considered reasonable care.
    Click the second link first

    https://injury.findlaw.com/accident-...ence-case.html

    https://injury.findlaw.com/accident-...le-person.html

    Surely it was explained to you why you lost?
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    Looks like GC has made himself into ARPs "Pinata" (Mexican stuffed paper doll stuffed with candy that participants hit with bats) LOL.

    I mean this whole thing has been has been a riot IMHO with GC making fallacious arguments saying that the trucking company owes him some restitution for his losses on the accident.

    Yeah, lighten up GC you have lost your case in front of a "liberal" jury in LA and now among your distinguished "peers" here on ARP. Yeah let it go.

    I nominate GC for ARPs "Man of the Year" for getting the most if not negative response for anyone poster on this forum for the whole year.

    I will have to say it has been both informative and entertaining to say the least. Way to go GC. Yeah. Thank you, thank you very much
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    Quote Originally Posted by BNME8EZ View Post
    Right there is the key; MORALITY.

    Our society has shunned the hard way of life, morality is a hard way. It is easy to have sex with who ever you want. It is easy to blame all your problems on others. It is easy to believe everyone should pay for your mishaps/mistakes.

    It is hard to avoid temptation in all its forms. It is hard to take responsibility for your actions. It is hard to deal with the costs of that responsibility.

    Maybe that is where the saying "If it was easy anybody could do it" came from. I think this is a core difference between the left and right. The right tries to follow a more moral code, while the left tends to be fine letting people do what they feel will make them happy. As I have said before it seems the left is more for the individual and the right is more for society. Both have what is best for people in mind but the focus is what separates the two. In any case all the way left is not good nor is all the way right. A balance needs to be found somewhere in the middle. Right now the pendulum has swung so far left that attitudes just left of center seem like they are extreme right.
    A very good observation of what has happened the last few decades.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Fender60 View Post
    How could they have stopped it? How could they stop all guns on their property; with a sign?
    His own arguement would have a convienence store responsible for its own robbery as the gun entered it's premises and the store is responsible for guns entering it's premises to commit crimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BNME8EZ View Post
    What I am saying is you want to hold the company to a standard that an ordinary company can not stand up to. Sure a Mega corp can pay out millions for what is ultimately the wrong doing of a customer, but a normal company can't. The problem is once you make that leap you have to hold all companies to that same standard. Do you want to be held to the same standard of liability as Ford, or GE, or a multi billion dollar casino? If you can't then you can't hold the mega corp to that standard.

    What if that shooting would have been done through a Mom & Pop motel room, would you expect them to pay out millions? They don't have the deep pockets that a multi billion dollar casino has. You and I don't have those deep pockets either. You can't hold one to a higher standard just because of deeper pockets.
    I wonder how he would feel if he had a family get together with a BBQ and say a brother burned his lip on a hotdog... there goes a half million bucks



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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian GC View Post
    Since you instinctually side with the poor victimized mega-corp, why don't you tell us what determined and put the nail in the coffin for McDonalds with that case. Bet you can't.
    You won't agree but I would say a liberal jury, especially since the judge overturned their award and lowered it. Also McD's never paid the full amount since both called for a retrial and it was settled out of court for an undisclosed lesser amount. So I don't see a nail in the coffin especially when it started out in the millions and ended up under 600k

    Now is this where you are going to tell me that comparative negligence was the deciding factor forget it. It reduced the amount of damages rather than having McD's float the whole boat.

    She would have been better off suing the car maker for not having cup holders. The point that was apparently not brought out is that 99% of all coffee made uses boiling water which is at 212° so fresh coffee will be HOT. It doesn't take a genius to figure out coffee will be hot. Put your hands around a cup and yo will know it's hot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BNME8EZ View Post
    You won't agree but I would say a liberal jury, especially since the judge overturned their award and lowered it. Also McD's never paid the full amount since both called for a retrial and it was settled out of court for an undisclosed lesser amount. So I don't see a nail in the coffin especially when it started out in the millions and ended up under 600k

    Now is this where you are going to tell me that comparative negligence was the deciding factor forget it. It reduced the amount of damages rather than having McD's float the whole boat.

    She would have been better off suing the car maker for not having cup holders. The point that was apparently not brought out is that 99% of all coffee made uses boiling water which is at 212° so fresh coffee will be HOT. It doesn't take a genius to figure out coffee will be hot. Put your hands around a cup and yo will know it's hot.
    If I remember right . She put the cup between her legs opened it .. then about fifteen seconds later manged to spill it in her crotch while fiddleing with the sugar or creamer to put in it.
    The original story that came out was the lid wasn't on good and popped off...that is how the suit came about..then the truth came out later.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian GC View Post
    Since you instinctually side with the poor victimized mega-corp, why don't you tell us what determined and put the nail in the coffin for McDonalds with that case. Bet you can't.
    I don't believe that's true. It doesn't take anything but common sense to draw the conclusion that any and all Coffee drinkers know (and even non-coffee drinkers): Coffee is hot. If you spill it, it will burn.

    I think it realistic to say that most will determine the validity of a lawsuit using common sense to interpret the facts. While it's true that 'mega-corps' can be and often are greedy and evil, it's also just as true that Coffee is hot enough to burn human skin. Those who don't know this shouldn't be free to roam the streets (for their own safety and that of others).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missouri Guy View Post
    If I remember right . She put the cup between her legs opened it .. then about fifteen seconds later manged to spill it in her crotch while fiddleing with the sugar or creamer to put in it.
    The original story that came out was the lid wasn't on good and popped off...that is how the suit came about..then the truth came out later.
    M*A*S*H* has made a comeback. But all they could sign were Frank Burns and Hot Lips (did y'all ever notice the irony of those names in the storyline?).

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    Quote Originally Posted by vin lashon View Post
    M*A*S*H* has made a comeback. But all they could sign were Frank Burns and Hot Lips (did y'all ever notice the irony of those names in the storyline?).
    Which nursing home did they find them in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missouri Guy View Post
    Which nursing home did they find them in?

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