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    Questions about starting out ?

    Hi i am in need of advice, I had just fininished hvac certification class at my local community collage. I have recieved a CFC Universal card, I am 1 of 3 out of a class of 12 that got universal. witch i am proud of.And Another factor is im a big guy im almost 400lbs, something im working on. my questions start by-

    "how do i get into the field when every company
    I apply for or witch call about a position wants no less than 2 years experience, knowing i dont have any
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    "What to do if your too big to fit in Attics and or crawl spaces."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big B1990 View Post
    Hi i am in need of advice, I had just fininished hvac certification class at my local community collage. I have recieved a CFC Universal card, I am 1 of 3 out of a class of 12 that got universal. witch i am proud of.And Another factor is im a big guy im almost 400lbs, something im working on. my questions start by-

    "how do i get into the field when every company
    I apply for or witch call about a position wants no less than 2 years experience, knowing i dont have any
    "

    "What to do if your too big to fit in Attics and or crawl spaces."
    Its really about how you sell yourself sometimes. You have to show you know what you learned. And be ready for the unforseen. Id start in commercial side of things. To be honest and not to be rude attic stairs will not like the weight you present and you or your company will forfit the bill. Plus attics suck so... Commercial it is. Lots of companies are at the end of the peak production wise, so the amount of companies hiring is dwindling. Still a decent bit out there tho.

    Checkout a thread call interview questions if your able.

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    I have worked with people like yourself but in residential they were always already top technicians and were our boiler and oil specialists in every case. The others were experienced in the commercial side of the business. That would mean rooftops usually and is technically more challenging.
    Do you have a background in any other loosely related fields such as general construction, as an electrician or any technical training? Customer relations is also related more than you would think, especially in residential. If that is the case I would look to get a proper resume written up and push your strengths. Including an eagerness to learn and excel. A current copy of your driving record wouldn't hurt either. They would still check it but it would show that you are prepared and help you stand out.

    Residential companies will hire people out of a trade school but if it was only for the EPA certification that probably wouldn't be enough in most cases. Trade schools are expensive and are usually about 18 months or so of full time schooling. You may look to see if there are any shorter part time certificate classes being offered such as basic refrigeration or electrical troubleshooting. I have seen them offered in some areas.

    No owner will say that they won't hire you because of your weight but it will be on their mind. If it was me I would bring it up along with my willingness to learn work hard, continue your schooling and get in shape. If you don't get hired at least you may have made some contacts. If not hired I would leave saying that you will return when you have more schooling-experience and are in better shape and if you do they will remember that.

    Good luck
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    Strictly from a professional stance, you will not be able to do residential. So commercial it is. Has absolutely nothing to do with being criminatory. It is just a physical fact.

    The easiest way to break into the trade is to sell your self cheap. That's what I did and it worked out fantastic.

    Once you are employed, then you are a commodity, and other employers will be looking at and for you. That's just the way it is.
    If you were a real tech, you'd solder a relay on that board and call it good to go.

    I do a triple evac with nitro to remove non condensables.

    I use 56% silver on everything except steel.

    Did you really need the " If you were a real tech " ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big B1990 View Post
    Hi i am in need of advice, I had just fininished hvac certification class at my local community collage. I have recieved a CFC Universal card, I am 1 of 3 out of a class of 12 that got universal. witch i am proud of.And Another factor is im a big guy im almost 400lbs, something im working on. my questions start by-

    "how do i get into the field when every company
    I apply for or witch call about a position wants no less than 2 years experience, knowing i dont have any
    "

    "What to do if your too big to fit in Attics and or crawl spaces."
    First let me tell about the easiest way to lose weight the keto diet, there is plenty of info everywhere about it, do it and get rid of the extra pounds, people do judge you for being fat, I tent to gain weight easy and between the keto and weight lifting I'm able to stay around 220.
    Second, dont bother with residential and dont sell yourself cheap, focus on your local HVAC union, take the admission test and once accepted as an apprentice your pay and benefits will go up every year learning while working. In my opinion there are two ways to go somewhere in this trade 1-owning your company 2-working union.
    There is not better place for the working men than the union! 100% UA the only HVAC union!

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    Problem with that is, in most places, you can't go out on your own without experience. And in many cases, there are no openings in the union.

    So the only other option is to under bid the others looking for work. Just to get your foot in the door.

    By the way, where is the hizzy?


    Quote Originally Posted by valdelocc View Post
    First let me tell about the easiest way to lose weight the keto diet, there is plenty of info everywhere about it, do it and get rid of the extra pounds, people do judge you for being fat, I tent to gain weight easy and between the keto and weight lifting I'm able to stay around 220.
    Second, dont bother with residential and dont sell yourself cheap, focus on your local HVAC union, take the admission test and once accepted as an apprentice your pay and benefits will go up every year learning while working. In my opinion there are two ways to go somewhere in this trade 1-owning your company 2-working union.
    If you were a real tech, you'd solder a relay on that board and call it good to go.

    I do a triple evac with nitro to remove non condensables.

    I use 56% silver on everything except steel.

    Did you really need the " If you were a real tech " ??

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    I don't know what the keto diet is, but if you want to lose weight, just eliminate carbohydrates from your diet. Easy peasy.

    By the way, where is the hizzy?


    Quote Originally Posted by valdelocc View Post
    First let me tell about the easiest way to lose weight the keto diet, there is plenty of info everywhere about it, do it and get rid of the extra pounds, people do judge you for being fat, I tent to gain weight easy and between the keto and weight lifting I'm able to stay around 220.
    Second, dont bother with residential and dont sell yourself cheap, focus on your local HVAC union, take the admission test and once accepted as an apprentice your pay and benefits will go up every year learning while working. In my opinion there are two ways to go somewhere in this trade 1-owning your company 2-working union.
    If you were a real tech, you'd solder a relay on that board and call it good to go.

    I do a triple evac with nitro to remove non condensables.

    I use 56% silver on everything except steel.

    Did you really need the " If you were a real tech " ??

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    Voice recognition, LOL

    Discriminatory


    Quote Originally Posted by BBeerme View Post
    Strictly from a professional stance, you will not be able to do residential. So commercial it is. Has absolutely nothing to do with being criminatory. It is just a physical fact.

    The easiest way to break into the trade is to sell your self cheap. That's what I did and it worked out fantastic.

    Once you are employed, then you are a commodity, and other employers will be looking at and for you. That's just the way it is.
    If you were a real tech, you'd solder a relay on that board and call it good to go.

    I do a triple evac with nitro to remove non condensables.

    I use 56% silver on everything except steel.

    Did you really need the " If you were a real tech " ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big B1990 View Post
    Hi i am in need of advice, I had just fininished hvac certification class at my local community collage. I have recieved a CFC Universal card, I am 1 of 3 out of a class of 12 that got universal. witch i am proud of.And Another factor is im a big guy im almost 400lbs, something im working on. my questions start by-

    "how do i get into the field when every company
    I apply for or witch call about a position wants no less than 2 years experience, knowing i dont have any
    "

    "What to do if your too big to fit in Attics and or crawl spaces."

    Each response has some good advice. Union is better than non union. Commercial is usually better than residential and owning your own company is many times the best place to be. These are for people who have the best options and not right for everybody. And everyone doesn't have the best options open to them. Your biggest hurdle may be getting a start. I say look at the long term and give it your best. It may not come right away in the end it will be up to you.
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    I agree. You should go Union and Commercial, while you're working on some weight loss. In Philadelphia, a fifth year Apprentice in the union makes more money than the average HV AC technician at a non-union company.

    In commercial we do climb a lot of ladders, and weighing 400 pounds is going to be really hard on your hips, your knees, and your ankles...along with your plantar fascia on the bottom of your feet, so do yourself a favor and pare off a hundred pounds. Trust me, it will be the best move you've ever made.
    I'm only 5'10, but I lost 50 lbs a few years ago, and it made a terrific difference in my life.

    When you get to 300, then you can start thinking about 250.
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    We got a guy that was something like 350 when we hired him. A year ago. Could barely climb a ladder. He's down to something like 250.

    Boss brought it up at our last safety meeting. Congratulated him. In a soft voice, he later said, I want a woman.

    It doesn't get any better than that.

    Probably still in his 20's. But yeah, a man needs a woman. That's how it works.
    If you were a real tech, you'd solder a relay on that board and call it good to go.

    I do a triple evac with nitro to remove non condensables.

    I use 56% silver on everything except steel.

    Did you really need the " If you were a real tech " ??

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    Ok thanks everyone for your help with this matter, I may have to move to another town for commercial HVAC, in mean Time work on weight, and I saw that one post I want a girl too. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big B1990 View Post
    Ok thanks everyone for your help with this matter, I may have to move to another town for commercial HVAC, in mean Time work on weight, and I saw that one post I want a girl too. Lol
    Little motivation...

    Women absolutely love men in uniform!!!

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