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    Some interesting points about the "whistle blower":

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=was+the+tr...=v49-1&ia=news

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    Quote Originally Posted by vin lashon View Post
    What is truly strange is that no one who's a Democrat seems to find it odd that the "whistle blower" went to Schiff first. You see, the "whistle Blower" wasn't a "whistle blower" then. The likely scenario is that Schiff recognized the value of launching yet another Dem Impeachment/nullification effort against Trump using the "whistle blower" statute as cover, since the "whistle blower" could then be yet one more anonymous source, exempt from questioning.
    Nice story bro. But like I said no evidence of any of it.

    Unconventional and unusual to seek an opinion from the House before filing a complaint but not illegal. But you have to admit that the unconventional and unusual but not illegal precedent was set by the Reps long ago, they have been treading that fine line between moral and illegal for quite some time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by netsalt View Post
    Nice story bro. But like I said no evidence of any of it.

    Unconventional and unusual to seek an opinion from the House before filing a complaint but not illegal. But you have to admit that the unconventional and unusual but not illegal precedent was set by the Reps long ago, they have been treading that fine line between moral and illegal for quite some time.
    Just apply the same standard of evidence that you do for Trump.

    Unfortunately for the Left, their schemes always seem to backfire, blowing up in their face. I expect this to be no different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vin lashon View Post
    Just apply the same standard of evidence that you do for Trump.
    So Congress should not investigate a legitimate whistle blower complaint? Do you think we should let the executive branch skirt the law by revealing a whistle blowers identity - slippery slope there - doncha think?
    It ain't what you don't know that gets you in trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by netsalt View Post
    So Congress should not investigate a legitimate whistle blower complaint? Do you think we should let the executive branch skirt the law by revealing a whistle blowers identity - slippery slope there - doncha think?
    Of course they have to investigate it. Schiff knew this when he planned this new caper. But, if you believe that this isn't another Democrat scheme to 'Get Trump!', you're either wearing blinders or simply not paying attention. Schiff has had a vendetta against Trump since the beginning. In fact, he got the Russia Collusion debacle rolling and leaked information. And here he is again, using the Whistle Blower Statute as a strategy.

    Odd that you guys on the Left use the "where there's smoke there's fire" cliche against Trump, but invariably fail to apply it to the Left, where it truly is obvious, particularly when it's so blatant and frequent. They literally run from one thing to the next. When this one falls flat, they'll find some new breathless accusation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vin lashon View Post
    Of course they have to investigate it. Schiff knew this when he planned this new caper. But, if you believe that this isn't another Democrat scheme to 'Get Trump!', you're either wearing blinders or simply not paying attention. Schiff has had a vendetta against Trump since the beginning. In fact, he got the Russia Collusion debacle rolling and leaked information. And here he is again, using the Whistle Blower Statute as a strategy.

    Odd that you guys on the Left use the "where there's smoke there's fire" cliche against Trump, but invariably fail to apply it to the Left, where it truly is obvious, particularly when it's so blatant and frequent. They literally run from one thing to the next. When this one falls flat, they'll find some new breathless accusation.
    Funny how when a D congressman investigates a whistle blower complaint it is a caper but when the R president is sending his personal consigliere to entice foreign nations to investigate right wing conspiracy theories involving his potential political rival it is not.
    It ain't what you don't know that gets you in trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by netsalt View Post
    Funny how when D congressman investigates a whistle blower complaint it is a caper but when the R president is sending his personal consigliere to entice foreign nations to investigate right wing conspiracy theories involving his potential political rival it is not.

    Time will tell how all of this turns out. My opinion is that the Left won't be happy. But do you truly not see that the Left's priority is to get Trump at any and all cost? It's all they've done since he was nominated. Every single day has been about Nullification or impeachment. How can anything from the Liberal camp be believed when they unceasingly demonstrate that they are willing to lie cheat and steal to get Trump?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vin lashon View Post
    Time will tell how all of this turns out. My opinion is that the Left won't be happy. But do you truly not see that the Left's priority is to get Trump at any and all cost? It's all they've done since he was nominated. Every single day has been about Nullification or impeachment. How can anything from the Liberal camp be believed when they unceasingly demonstrate that they are willing to lie cheat and steal to get Trump?
    Granted the left has been making it apparent their distaste for Trump since he was elected, the flip side of this is the right making it apparent that anyone that does not adore their Dear Leader is not just wrong but is a villainous enemy that must be struck down for their transgressions through any means they deem necessary. Can you see that this outlook goes against all this Great Country stands for?
    It ain't what you don't know that gets you in trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by netsalt View Post
    Granted the left has been making it apparent their distaste for Trump since he was elected, the flip side of this is the right making it apparent that anyone that does not adore their Dear Leader is not just wrong but is a villainous enemy that must be struck down for their transgressions through any means they deem necessary. Can you see that this outlook goes against all this Great Country stands for?
    You're comparing apples to oranges...the Trump supporter on the street to the Ruling Liberal Elite. The man on the street is merely expressing his opinion...yes, some rabidly. The Liberal.machine is using/abusing the system to nullify the election.

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    I think you are missing the point. The point is that there is a procedure for whistle blowers to follow. There is a form, etc. That whole procedure was bypassed.

    What WAS done was to present a legal brief that was prepared by a lawyer, not the whistle blower. This legal brief was even annotated (is that the word? I think so) with all sorts of references. Keep in mind this has never been done before. Lots of stuff going on now that has never been done before.

    The point is, this whole legal brief was prepared with the sole intent of providing evidence for an impeachment proceeding. Or investigation or whatever the proper term is.

    This legal brief was not provided as whistle blower evidence since it was heard third hand. Just that alone pretty well knocks the importance down several notches. Meaning, a lot of work would need to be done long before the word impeachment could even come into play.


    Quote Originally Posted by netsalt View Post
    Nice story bro. But like I said no evidence of any of it.

    Unconventional and unusual to seek an opinion from the House before filing a complaint but not illegal.
    But you have to admit that the unconventional and unusual but not illegal precedent was set by the Reps long ago, they have been treading that fine line between moral and illegal for quite some time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBeerme View Post
    I think you are missing the point. The point is that there is a procedure for whistle blowers to follow. There is a form, etc. That whole procedure was bypassed.

    What WAS done was to present a legal brief that was prepared by a lawyer, not the whistle blower. This legal brief was even annotated (is that the word? I think so) with all sorts of references. Keep in mind this has never been done before. Lots of stuff going on now that has never been done before.

    The point is, this whole legal brief was prepared with the sole intent of providing evidence for an impeachment proceeding. Or investigation or whatever the proper term is.

    This legal brief was not provided as whistle blower evidence since it was heard third hand. Just that alone pretty well knocks the importance down several notches. Meaning, a lot of work would need to be done long before the word impeachment could even come into play.
    What is really amusing...
    These clowns on the left think nothing at all of bending (and probably breaking) the law...
    To advance their agenda.

    Just wait until someone does the SAME thing to them...
    They would be screaming bloody murder if the right was treating them the same way they are treating Trump!

    Rules are there to keep balance...
    If we toss the rules, in the name of advancing an agenda...
    It is just a matter of time before the SAME tactics will be used on the very folks who are using the tactics now...
    And they will NOT like it being thrown at them!

    Which comes back to WHY we have rules...


    One can, IMO, find tidbits of proof of how absolutely stupid the liberal mind is...
    Simply by watching the really DUMB things they try... to advance their agendas...
    Digging a hole they will live in... seems to NEVER occur to them.

    Amazing, amusing, and in a way...
    GA likes it...

    Why???
    Because Karma is a B*tch... and she is about to visit the DIM party, for a LONG visit!
    Probably longer than a mother in law... moving in with her daughter...
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    Quote Originally Posted by netsalt View Post
    So Congress should not investigate a legitimate whistle blower complaint? Do you think we should let the executive branch skirt the law by revealing a whistle blowers identity - slippery slope there - doncha think?
    Legitimate? Sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian8383 View Post
    Legitimate? Sure.
    Agree...

    These allegations are about as legitimate as a stray dog birthing puppies...

    What is really SAD...
    Is how many otherwise intelligent folks that are suckered into believing the BS...
    Simply because:
    *The MsM screams it over and over and over... forgetting how easy it is to tell a lie, if it is told enough times in a short time.
    *They do not have the gonads to not roll with the crowd... regardless of the consequences.

    The left AND their supporters, are making fools of themselves...

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