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    Quote Originally Posted by vin lashon View Post
    Providing a link to Party Line copy/paste is good netiquette.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...firing-ukraine
    Sorry forgot - is any less true?
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    Quote Originally Posted by netsalt View Post
    Sorry forgot - is any less true?
    That depends on your definition of 'Truth'. While "truth" can contain statement of facts, the facts can be arranged to convey something other than the 'Truth'. The Guardian isn't a publication I'd rely on for the bare naked facts.

    So in answer, we don't really know what the 'Truth' is by reading this article. What we do know is that The Guardian is a Left-of-Center publication and can be relied upon to support the party line over the 'Truth'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vin lashon View Post
    That depends on your definition of 'Truth'. While "truth" can contain statement of facts, the facts can be arranged to convey something other than the 'Truth'. The Guardian isn't a publication I'd rely on for the bare naked facts.

    So in answer, we don't really know what the 'Truth' is by reading this article. What we do know is that The Guardian is a Left-of-Center publication and can be relied upon to support the party line over the 'Truth'.
    Like I said in my original post (without link to "lefty" "fake news"publication) - I guess it was just a coincidence. Carry on.
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    Biden: “We Choose Truth Over Facts”

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    Quote Originally Posted by netsalt View Post
    Like I said in my original post (without link to "lefty" "fake news"publication) - I guess it was just a coincidence. Carry on.
    Did you miss this in my response? Your comment here would imply that you did:

    Quote Originally Posted by vin lashon View Post
    ...

    So in answer, we don't really know what the 'Truth' is by reading this article.

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    The red flags are what the military on the rifle range call Maggies drawers. In other words a complete miss.
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    I hope you/we get the same treatment that Ms. Clinton got, if we destroy evidence...

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    Don’t Doubt Me: The Democrats’ Impeachment Ploy Is Failing
    Sep 27, 2019
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    The truth is that this is not going the way these people planned, and it’s not going the way they planned it because they have destroyed… They’ve cried wolf so damn many times; the American people are not listening. It used to be… You know how rare impeachment is. It is so rare that when it happened, it stopped everybody in their tracks. It stopped everybody in their tracks. It was all over Times Square.

    It was on all those newsreels and panels with the news floating by. It stopped everybody, ’cause it doesn’t ever happen — and they really haven’t even begun formal impeachment proceedings. They’ve just said that they’re gonna impeach, that impeachment’s underway, an impeachment inquiry — and yet life goes on. Nobody stopped. Life did not come to a screeching halt. America did not become paralyzed with political fright. And why?

    It’s my contention that this is not going the way they want it to go. And I realize, folks, that things I’m gonna say today are going to appear to be to be in direct contravention to what you see on TV. You’re gonna think I’m not watching what you’re watching.

    If you watch television, you probably have come to the conclusion Trump’s guilty, it’s only a matter of time, they’re gonna get him, he is gone, he’s lost all support, Democrats can’t be beat, can’t be stopped, it’s just never ending and so forth. What you have to realize here is that they have failed at every attempt to get rid of Trump.

    They ruined this past week. They literally ruined a great week at the United Nations. They have ruined Trump’s — well, not ruined, but they have done great damage in clouding the reporting of Trump’s great achievements. There are many great achievements in the Trump administration. This speech at the U.N. this week was one of the greatest for the establishment of America as America, for the whole agenda of Make America Great Again. The Democrats made sure that none of it got covered.

    But their objective is to get rid of Trump. Their objective is to have him frog-marched out of the Oval Office before 2020. That’s been what their objective has been since they started this. That is what has failed. And they are beside themselves with rage over it. They can’t get it done. They can’t find a single criminal act committed by Donald Trump or his family. I don’t care what they’re saying they’ve found. I don’t care what they’re saying on TV. I’m telling you this isn’t going the way they had hoped.

    They had hoped, with the official announcement by Pelosi of an impeachment inquiry, they hoped that everybody would have thought that meant Trump had been impeached. They then hoped and thought that would mean that all of Trump’s support would abandon him. They then hoped and thought that all it was was a matter of speed, how quickly could they get the impeachment presentation, the articles over to the Senate, have a trial.

    But there’s a Politico headline that makes my point for me here, and it’s so good that they’ve pulled it down. And here’s the headline: “Trump Killed the Seriousness of Impeachment – Impeachment proceedings used to be news of unquestionable gravity. The week showed it’s just more fodder for the ideological and culture wars.”

    This is part of the cabal that wants to get Trump. They’re acknowledging that this whole thing has been a lead balloon for exactly the right reason, by the way. It just seems like the next phase in a Democrat ongoing operation. It doesn’t seem serious. It’s not the invocation of something truly, truly rare. It’s not the invocation of something nobody ever really wants to see.

    Impeachment never happens. It is so rare, four times, that when it does, it literally has been a heart stopper. This was just another day in the life of the Democrats in the media and the Democrats in Washington and their ongoing battle with Donald Trump. It was nothing more than Steele dossier, then the Mueller report, then we’ve got the whistleblower allegations, then we’ve got impeachment, and what’s it gonna be next?

    Now, the author of this story in the Politico, John Harris, gets this, “Trump Killed the Seriousness of Impeachment.” This is an admission that the lead balloon they tried to drop on everything went kaput. It’s hard to believe this when you absorb mainstream so-called news every day. It’s hard to look at this and think, “My God, it’s not going the way they planned. My God, they’re failing.” But believe me, it isn’t going the way they planned.

    Folks, they don’t have a case to make. They were hoping that just announcing this official inquiry would make the case, that nobody would doubt anymore that Trump has to go. And Trump’s numbers continue to hold steady or rise in certain polls, and now he’s ahead of Biden. I just got another note, “Why is nobody asking Biden about the corruption of his son?”

    Come on, folks. Well, who’s gonna ask him? The media? That’s not how they’re gonna take Biden out. They’re not gonna take Biden out directly like this. The other Democrat candidates can’t afford to be seen doing this. The way Biden is gonna be taken out, it’s gonna happen with slow, anonymous leaks, slow revelations, the guy’s so deeply flawed. It’s gonna happen with all the Democrats wringing their hands in sadness and disappointment.

    It’s not gonna be the result of attacks on the guy. They can’t. They are as corrupt as Biden is! They can’t take him out for that reason! They can’t take Biden out for corruption. What are they gonna do to Hillary, then, what are they gonna do to the next nominee? Look at Fauxcahontas. How corrupt can you get? Phony, fake Indian. Crazy Bernie, a millionaire running as a socialist.

    They can’t take Biden out on this corruption stuff. They’re going to take him out when they see he’s losing ground in polls to Trump. They’re going to take him out sadly and unfortunately because it’s obvious that hecan’t win, but the media’s not gonna focus on — if you want focus on Biden’s scandals, your question should be where in the Sam Hill is the Republican Party? The Republican Party runs every committee in the Senate! Where are those committees looking into this?

    Where is the oversight from the areas that the Republicans control? That’s your question! Don’t think the media’s gonna take Biden out. Not on this scandal business. Because they’re all dirty. They can’t afford to take him out that way.

    Read the rest:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Space Racer View Post
    Don’t Doubt Me: The Democrats’ Impeachment Ploy Is Failing
    Sep 27, 2019
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    The truth is that this is not going the way these people planned, and it’s not going the way they planned it because they have destroyed… They’ve cried wolf so damn many times; the American people are not listening. It used to be… You know how rare impeachment is. It is so rare that when it happened, it stopped everybody in their tracks. It stopped everybody in their tracks. It was all over Times Square.

    It was on all those newsreels and panels with the news floating by. It stopped everybody, ’cause it doesn’t ever happen — and they really haven’t even begun formal impeachment proceedings. They’ve just said that they’re gonna impeach, that impeachment’s underway, an impeachment inquiry — and yet life goes on. Nobody stopped. Life did not come to a screeching halt. America did not become paralyzed with political fright. And why?

    It’s my contention that this is not going the way they want it to go. And I realize, folks, that things I’m gonna say today are going to appear to be to be in direct contravention to what you see on TV. You’re gonna think I’m not watching what you’re watching.

    If you watch television, you probably have come to the conclusion Trump’s guilty, it’s only a matter of time, they’re gonna get him, he is gone, he’s lost all support, Democrats can’t be beat, can’t be stopped, it’s just never ending and so forth. What you have to realize here is that they have failed at every attempt to get rid of Trump.

    They ruined this past week. They literally ruined a great week at the United Nations. They have ruined Trump’s — well, not ruined, but they have done great damage in clouding the reporting of Trump’s great achievements. There are many great achievements in the Trump administration. This speech at the U.N. this week was one of the greatest for the establishment of America as America, for the whole agenda of Make America Great Again. The Democrats made sure that none of it got covered.

    But their objective is to get rid of Trump. Their objective is to have him frog-marched out of the Oval Office before 2020. That’s been what their objective has been since they started this. That is what has failed. And they are beside themselves with rage over it. They can’t get it done. They can’t find a single criminal act committed by Donald Trump or his family. I don’t care what they’re saying they’ve found. I don’t care what they’re saying on TV. I’m telling you this isn’t going the way they had hoped.

    They had hoped, with the official announcement by Pelosi of an impeachment inquiry, they hoped that everybody would have thought that meant Trump had been impeached. They then hoped and thought that would mean that all of Trump’s support would abandon him. They then hoped and thought that all it was was a matter of speed, how quickly could they get the impeachment presentation, the articles over to the Senate, have a trial.

    But there’s a Politico headline that makes my point for me here, and it’s so good that they’ve pulled it down. And here’s the headline: “Trump Killed the Seriousness of Impeachment – Impeachment proceedings used to be news of unquestionable gravity. The week showed it’s just more fodder for the ideological and culture wars.”

    This is part of the cabal that wants to get Trump. They’re acknowledging that this whole thing has been a lead balloon for exactly the right reason, by the way. It just seems like the next phase in a Democrat ongoing operation. It doesn’t seem serious. It’s not the invocation of something truly, truly rare. It’s not the invocation of something nobody ever really wants to see.

    Impeachment never happens. It is so rare, four times, that when it does, it literally has been a heart stopper. This was just another day in the life of the Democrats in the media and the Democrats in Washington and their ongoing battle with Donald Trump. It was nothing more than Steele dossier, then the Mueller report, then we’ve got the whistleblower allegations, then we’ve got impeachment, and what’s it gonna be next?

    Now, the author of this story in the Politico, John Harris, gets this, “Trump Killed the Seriousness of Impeachment.” This is an admission that the lead balloon they tried to drop on everything went kaput. It’s hard to believe this when you absorb mainstream so-called news every day. It’s hard to look at this and think, “My God, it’s not going the way they planned. My God, they’re failing.” But believe me, it isn’t going the way they planned.

    Folks, they don’t have a case to make. They were hoping that just announcing this official inquiry would make the case, that nobody would doubt anymore that Trump has to go. And Trump’s numbers continue to hold steady or rise in certain polls, and now he’s ahead of Biden. I just got another note, “Why is nobody asking Biden about the corruption of his son?”

    Come on, folks. Well, who’s gonna ask him? The media? That’s not how they’re gonna take Biden out. They’re not gonna take Biden out directly like this. The other Democrat candidates can’t afford to be seen doing this. The way Biden is gonna be taken out, it’s gonna happen with slow, anonymous leaks, slow revelations, the guy’s so deeply flawed. It’s gonna happen with all the Democrats wringing their hands in sadness and disappointment.

    It’s not gonna be the result of attacks on the guy. They can’t. They are as corrupt as Biden is! They can’t take him out for that reason! They can’t take Biden out for corruption. What are they gonna do to Hillary, then, what are they gonna do to the next nominee? Look at Fauxcahontas. How corrupt can you get? Phony, fake Indian. Crazy Bernie, a millionaire running as a socialist.

    They can’t take Biden out on this corruption stuff. They’re going to take him out when they see he’s losing ground in polls to Trump. They’re going to take him out sadly and unfortunately because it’s obvious that hecan’t win, but the media’s not gonna focus on — if you want focus on Biden’s scandals, your question should be where in the Sam Hill is the Republican Party? The Republican Party runs every committee in the Senate! Where are those committees looking into this?

    Where is the oversight from the areas that the Republicans control? That’s your question! Don’t think the media’s gonna take Biden out. Not on this scandal business. Because they’re all dirty. They can’t afford to take him out that way.

    Read the rest:
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    Yeah, heard that live...

    Not even Fox is willing to say it yet...

    But IMO the DIMS just dug their grave.

    Nancy P said something recently... that IMO should be taken seriously:
    Something like:
    "... it is worth loosing the House to accomplish _______ ..."

    GA interpretation: the DIMS already know they are gonna loose the house next year...
    They know they are toast in the 2020 election...
    So they are attempting to cover their tracks with the usual BS their naive followers will buy.
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    The more I think about it the more I think that Trump is orthodox - the reason that he is said to be unorthodox is that we have gotten so used to the previous 70 years of the unorthodox that we don't recognize orthodoxy now.

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    I think the most likely outcome of impeachment will be that it will help Trump win in 2020.
    There are two other possible scenarios that are much more unlikely that would hurt Trump's re-election, but only if the evidence against him really does end up being strong:
    1- The Republican senators actually vote to remove him from office which I assume is not going to happen.
    2- The non Democrats view the evidence as so overwhelming that they think Trump should have been removed.
    I sure hope I'm wrong but at this point it just looks like the Dems are giving Trump the presidency in 2020.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garyed View Post
    I think the most likely outcome of impeachment will be that it will help Trump win in 2020.
    There are two other possible scenarios that are much more unlikely that would hurt Trump's re-election, but only if the evidence against him really does end up being strong:
    1- The Republican senators actually vote to remove him from office which I assume is not going to happen.
    2- The non Democrats view the evidence as so overwhelming that they think Trump should have been removed.
    I sure hope I'm wrong but at this point it just looks like the Dems are giving Trump the presidency in 2020.
    The problem there is define strong evidence. Many of the Dems act like there is still a smoking gun in the Mueller investigation and Shiff (sp) has already translated the transcripts of the phone conversation totally out of context. Funny I always thought I could read English and understand what I read but he took those transcripts to a whole, or maybe hole, new level.

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    Andrew “ chicken -/:;($& “ Johnson

    William “Billy Bob” Clinton

    Don “the con” Trump

    It’s a very exclusive club... lol

    It ain’t over yet. Not till Trump quits rage tweeting and Rudy stops blabbing stuff that hurts trump.

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