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    Biden-Ukraine Connection

    A recent so-called "whistleblower complaint" says that President "Trump 'Urged' Ukraine's President to Investigate Biden's Son" (Time Mag).

    But this is not news. It's the latest round in an older investigation:

    Giuliani Annouced Trip to Ukraine in May to Question Leaders on Biden Crime Family — Fake News CNN and The Hill Pretend This is Breaking News Today
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    NEVER – EVER Trust the Fake News Liberal Media!

    Rudy Giuliani announced in May that he would travel to the Ukraine to question leaders on the Biden Crime family.

    After leaving office in 2017, Vice President Joe Biden Bragged about strong-arming the government of Ukraine to fire its top prosecutor.

    Joe Biden made the remarks during a meeting of foreign policy specialists. Biden said he, “Threatened Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in March 2016 that the Obama administration would pull $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees, sending the former Soviet republic toward insolvency, if it didn’t immediately fire Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin.” Biden suggested during his talk that Barack Obama was also in on the threat.

    In April John Solomon revealed what Biden did not tell his audience. Joe Biden had Shokin fired because he was investigating bribes to Joe Biden’s son Hunter.

    Shokin was investigating $3 million in funds that were being transferred out of Ukraine and into accounts in the United States at that time.
    Joe Biden had him fired.

    John Solomon joined Hannity in April to drop this bomb on the Biden family.
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    Joe Biden Got Ukrainian Prosecutor Fired Who Was Investigating His Son Hunter Biden

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8td7JmW2sI

    Then IN MAY Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani announced he was traveling to Ukraine to push the current leadership on several investigations including the probe on the Biden corruption case.

    But now the liberal fake news media is pretending this is the first time they heard about this.
    The fake news is trying to blame President Trump for Biden’s criminal acts in Ukraine.

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    Trump Campaign Releases Ad Torching Democrats

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    CNN and other lib press were reporting on this... Biden stuff.. in May..... Its not that they are trying to hide it or anything or act like it is something new.... Its just that there isnt anything there.

    https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/...kg-tsr-vpx.cnn

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019...n-conspiracies

    https://www.esquire.com/news-politic...ani-joe-biden/
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    So Biden can do it and brag about it on video for all to see and there is nothing there. On the other hand it is an impeachable crime if someone lies about Trump doing it. What is wrong with you Trump haters???
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    Quote Originally Posted by corny View Post
    CNN and other lib press were reporting on this... Biden stuff.. in May..... Its not that they are trying to hide it or anything or act like it is something new.... Its just that there isnt anything there.

    cnn.com

    vanityfair.com

    esquire.com

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    Don't y'all know a spin when you read/hear one? If I steal something can I yell "Ya but that guy did too!" No, what someone else might have done doesn't count. It's just a lawyer's lame attempt to avert attention from his client's crimes.
    When are Trump supporters going to bail or are they so inept to changing their minds that I wonder if anything's in them.
    Try supporting a real Republican.
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    The party of Seth Rich !, Pizza Gate !, Hillary’s hit list... lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by hvacker View Post
    Don't y'all know a spin when you read/hear one? If I steal something can I yell "Ya but that guy did too!" No, what someone else might have done doesn't count. It's just a lawyer's lame attempt to avert attention from his client's crimes.
    When are Trump supporters going to bail
    A legitimate question. I suppose many will if and when substantiated evidence (as opposed to Liberal Rhetoric) is presented. The perpetual Witch Hunt doesn't help the Left's case.

    As to the comparison, the same comment can be applied to the Left, but I think the comparisons are valid in that "That Guy did it too!" is the contrast of 'let it slide' compared to "Get Trump at any cost!". The cost in this case has been the credibility of the Left and their media. Their 'journalistic integrity' has made the term "Fake News" a household name.

    or are they so inept to changing their minds that I wonder if anything's in them.
    Try supporting a real Republican.
    An unreasonable comment from a generally reasonable poster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vin lashon View Post
    A legitimate question. I suppose many will if and when substantiated evidence (as opposed to Liberal Rhetoric) is presented. The perpetual Witch Hunt doesn't help the Left's case.

    As to the comparison, the same comment can be applied to the Left, but I think the comparisons are valid in that "That Guy did it too!" is the contrast of 'let it slide' compared to "Get Trump at any cost!". The cost in this case has been the credibility of the Left and their media. Their 'journalistic integrity' has made the term "Fake News" a household name.



    An unreasonable comment from a generally reasonable poster.

    Ya Vin, but this event didn't originate from the Dems. If it did it might be meaningless. This information was from CIA Agent. That put a whole different bent on what might have happened.
    Get Trump at any cost has similar ringtones as when Clinton was in office. That's why, while it's easy to fall into that mode, it's not the best way to travel.
    When a finger points at Trump follow it back to whose hand it's in. In this case it might be a good hand.

    Sometimes it's wise to jump ship before they run out of life boats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvacker View Post
    Ya Vin, but this event didn't originate from the Dems. If it did it might be meaningless. This information was from CIA Agent. That put a whole different bent on what might have happened.
    Get Trump at any cost has similar ringtones as when Clinton was in office. That's why, while it's easy to fall into that mode, it's not the best way to travel.
    According to what I've read, The CIA agent did not "listen directly to a July call between Mr. Trump and President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine..."

    Link:
    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattve...agent-n2553785

    Also, the transcript of the call is evidence. Not a CIA officer testifying, which means very little, given that he wasn't in on the call nor listening to it. Also the events of the past few years...Clapper, Comey, McCabe and more all swore of Trump's "crimes". Later information revealed a quite different story.

    I think I also read that the 'whistleblower' had a bias against Trump? I would have to find those articles.

    The fact that the information doesn't seem to originate from the dems is meaningless unitl we get to the bottom of it. OUr supposedly "neutral" officials have, in recent years, shown themselves to be the opposite of 'neutral'. It, in part, is why the term Deep State has become mainstream.


    When a finger points at Trump follow it back to whose hand it's in. In this case it might be a good hand.
    Lots of fingers have pointed. All of them led back to a lying Liberal hand.

    The point is that all there really is here thus far is smoke. That's all there's ever been with the Liberal vendetta. Given that there is no evidence, I'm inclined to go with the historical data: The Witch Hunt continues.


    Sometimes it's wise to jump ship before they run out of life boats.
    Yes. But doesn't wisdom dictate that one verify that the ship actually is sinking?
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    Witch hunt or not... there is going to be some investigating... lol

    Probably a lot of leaking as well......
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    Quote Originally Posted by corny View Post
    Witch hunt or not... there is going to be some investigating... lol

    Probably a lot of leaking as well......
    You say this as though it ever stopped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WAYNE3298 View Post
    So Biden can do it and brag about it on video for all to see and there is nothing there. On the other hand it is an impeachable crime if someone lies about Trump doing it. What is wrong with you Trump haters???
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