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    Pathetic install work

    I am working for the crappiest company, in terms of quality of work, I ever have. It is laughable on a day to day basis. I wont get into details unless you guys want them, lol. Just venting.

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    Why do you think this is? This is across the board. How are they being trained? I have guys wanting a job to be my install specialist and want $30+ an hour that do work a 5th grader could do better.

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    Are the installs payed flat rate or hourly?
    "Better tell the sandman to stay away, because we're gonna be workin on this one all night."

    "Dude, you need more than 2 wires to a condenser to run a 2 stage heatpump."

    "Just get it done son."

    Dad adjusted

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    Quote Originally Posted by hvacvegas View Post
    Are the installs payed flat rate or hourly?
    Its hourly. This whole area is like this. I cant even believe what I see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adlerberts-Protege View Post
    Its hourly. This whole area is like this. I cant even believe what I see.
    It could be worse. They could be paying them flat rate.
    I honestly HATE flat rate. It turns people into the "not my job because I'm not payed for that" mentality.

    You running the callbacks?
    "Better tell the sandman to stay away, because we're gonna be workin on this one all night."

    "Dude, you need more than 2 wires to a condenser to run a 2 stage heatpump."

    "Just get it done son."

    Dad adjusted

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    I really appreciate Co's/Guys like that because I get paid T&M to fix their goofy kinda work. Thanks ALOT$$$$$!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hvacvegas View Post
    It could be worse. They could be paying them flat rate.
    I honestly HATE flat rate. It turns people into the "not my job because I'm not payed for that" mentality.

    You running the callbacks?
    Most of them, yes. Yesterday I went to a manufactured home HP install and one of my guys ran the lineset through the foundation vent and then proceeded to fill the whole vent with spray foam, getting it all over the place. He also didnt install a P-trap or cleanout on the condensate, after we had just talked about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hvacvegas View Post
    It could be worse. They could be paying them flat rate.
    I honestly HATE flat rate. It turns people into the "not my job because I'm not payed for that" mentality.

    You running the callbacks?
    "I can't see it from my house"

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    I saw the weirdest P trap yesterday. Should've snapped a shot of it. I need to go back to wrap things up in a day or so, I'll try to remember to get a shot.


    Quote Originally Posted by Adlerberts-Protege View Post
    Most of them, yes. Yesterday I went to a manufactured home HP install and one of my guys ran the lineset through the foundation vent and then proceeded to fill the whole vent with spray foam, getting it all over the place. He also didnt install a P-trap or cleanout on the condensate, after we had just talked about it.
    I do a triple evac with nitro to remove non condensables.

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    When I get to a stopping point I will pull up tapatalk and post some pics from yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adlerberts-Protege View Post
    Most of them, yes. Yesterday I went to a manufactured home HP install and one of my guys ran the lineset through the foundation vent and then proceeded to fill the whole vent with spray foam, getting it all over the place. He also didnt install a P-trap or cleanout on the condensate, after we had just talked about it.
    These your employees or you the lead muthafr ? Make a check list they have to sign along with a drawing of how you want the equipment to look like upon completion. Things like line set placement, picking up trash is common sense which can be " very little ". A standard must be set and adhered too and if not there must be consequences. Maybe they are giving the type work they are being paid to do, low pay low quality normally.

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    The second to last pic, the one before my list, is a pic I sent to them showing them how I want them to look.

    Quote Originally Posted by oldguy1949 View Post
    These your employees or you the lead muthafr ? Make a check list they have to sign along with a drawing of how you want the equipment to look like upon completion. Things like line set placement, picking up trash is common sense which can be " very little ". A standard must be set and adhered too and if not there must be consequences. Maybe they are giving the type work they are being paid to do, low pay low quality normally.
    Im the lead installer, but I dont have the authority to watch everyone. Here are some pics as promised.

    Sent from my LGMP260 using Tapatalk

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    Wire nuts on high voltage outside.

    Just remove the factory whips from the contactor, crimp a oring on the wire and lug it to the contactor.

    If its solid strand, make a nice U bend and lug it to contactor.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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