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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian GC View Post
    Hey GA, you are on Medicare and SS. Are you now sponging off of me?

    Will that greed make you do strange things?
    Government forces our participation in things we would not have agreed to given a choice. I had to pay into the system, no choice. FDR, the socialist president created a monster when he created SS. Creeping socialism is what has been going on and now the emboldened progressive left wing democrats are ready to promote full blown socialism (free stuff) in order to get elected. More government control (government provides for you) equals less personal freedom and less choice.

    The greed is coming from the democrats who want to take from those who actually earn it and give it to those who don't. All for votes.
    "No matter how thirsty your imagination, mirages contain no water"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh B View Post
    Government forces our participation in things we would not have agreed to given a choice. I had to pay into the system, no choice.
    What percentage of Americans at age 65 resent the fact that they paid into SS? Not many!

    What percentage highly rely on that income when they retire? A huge amount!

    What percentage would have a substantially bigger 401 or IRA if they did not have SS withdrawn? Not many!

    Would they have just blown that money if not deducted? In most cases, yes!

    What percentage of Americans are that disciplined to save for retirement, such that they could guarantee a $2,000/mo income for the rest of their lives. Not many!

    Without Medicare, what percentage of retired Americans could afford to pay private insurance for their healthcare needs? Not many!

    If you have that discipline and money, good for you. But realistically, SS and Medicare are good for the masses. But then a good republican doesn't care about the masses. They only care about their own abilities and project those abilities onto all others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian GC View Post
    What percentage of Americans at age 65 resent the fact that they paid into SS? Not many!

    What percentage highly rely on that income when they retire? A huge amount!

    What percentage would have a substantially bigger 401 or IRA if they did not have SS withdrawn? Not many!

    Would they have just blown that money if not deducted? In most cases, yes!

    What percentage of Americans are that disciplined to save for retirement, such that they could guarantee a $2,000/mo income for the rest of their lives. Not many!

    Without Medicare, what percentage of retired Americans could afford to pay private insurance for their healthcare needs? Not many!

    If you have that discipline and money, good for you. But realistically, SS and Medicare are good for the masses. But then a good republican doesn't care about the masses. They only cares about their own abilities and project those abilities onto all others.
    Family day today so I don't have time to answer each of your statements. However, progressives and left wingers and democrats have ideas so great that they have to be forced on everyone. That alone tells much of the story. Make everyone dependent on the government and then the government or those in charge have control over you. That is what has happened and continues to grow now at an even faster rate.

    Soon everyone is going to be totally provided for by the government (socialism) and totally controlled as well. No longer free! This happens everywhere socialism and or communism takes a foothold. Then it makes everyone equally poor and miserable.
    "No matter how thirsty your imagination, mirages contain no water"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh B View Post
    Family day today so I don't have time to answer each of your statements. However, progressives and left wingers and democrats have ideas so great that they have to be forced on everyone. That alone tells much of the story. Make everyone dependent on the government and then the government or those in charge have control over you. That is what has happened and continues to grow now at an even faster rate.

    Soon everyone is going to be totally provided for by the government (socialism) and totally controlled as well. No longer free! This happens everywhere socialism and or communism takes a foothold. Then it makes everyone equally poor and miserable.
    It is a pity that you have so much fear in your life. A guy who probably has all the money he needs...yet is afraid of the air around him.

    BTW - My questions are already answered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gustavhorna View Post
    It works it is all the question how you define "it works" and "it doesn't work"
    Then why is everyone trying to cross our borders ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snapperhead View Post
    Then why is everyone trying to cross our borders ?
    Hmmm? Canadians are more socialist than us. Are they trying to cross our border?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian GC View Post
    Hey GA, you are on Medicare and SS. Are you now sponging off of me?

    Will that greed make you do strange things?
    He was forced to PAY IN to the system since he turned 18 years old , and will collect it back for what ... 10 - 15 years ?

    Thats definately Not what Id consider a sponge

    And i seriously doubt hes getting 2000 a month

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snapperhead View Post
    He was forced to PAY IN to the system since he turned 18 years old , and will collect it back for what ... 10 - 15 years ?

    Thats definately Not what Id consider a sponge

    And i seriously doubt hes getting 2000 a month
    GA is in socialist programs. "Sponge" is his term, not mine.
    Quote Originally Posted by ga-hvac-tech View Post
    Socialism is appealing to someone that wants to sponge off others...
    If he isn't getting $2,000/mo then he either did not work his whole life or he claimed very little income.

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    I have friends who have relatives in Government in Socialist countries , and they say the amount of money they steal from Tax Money , and use for their own personal pleasure ... is astounding

    So if you are lucky enough to be a part of the Government , you will have endless supply of funds

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    Those who dance, appear insane to those who do not hear the music.
    Those who believe, appear ignorant to those who do not know God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian GC View Post
    Hmmm? Canadians are more socialist than us. Are they trying to cross our border?
    I know plenty of Canucks who moved here .... i wonder how the opposite is

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    Socialism - the highly destructive political system whereby politicians sell out their country by promising unlimited benefits from the Treasury, paid for by stealing from a minority of hard working people, and giving to a majority who don't work and may not even be citizens, for the purpose of buying votes.
    Socialism is the device that ENSLAVES the voter to keep the party, that hands out the benefits, in power...
    IT IS CONTROLLING THE MASSES!
    It is deceiving the voters.
    It is destructive to IMPROVING the downtrodden, it KEEPS them down.
    It "KILLS" self incentive.
    Those who dance, appear insane to those who do not hear the music.
    Those who believe, appear ignorant to those who do not know God.

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    Brian ... watch that 5 minute video and explain what went wrong .... then explain how that cannot happen here

    Realize ... we already have a Government thats going down the wrong path ... its bringing in Women from other countries , and Drag Queens , and Homos , Lesbians , plus there are many who havent " come out the closet yet " Ruling the USA

    And it only gets worse as those weirdos bring in their own friends

    Theres a huge list someplace I saw of all the muslims holding political positions

    Thats lovely ...

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