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    After 2019 R-22 Is Gone!

    So after 2019 they’re gonna phase out r-22. In your opinion is this even a problem? Obviously there’s a few good drop in’s. Either way any 22 system is already at least 5 years old and on limited time anyways! I see this as great for our industry! What do y’all think? It’s a selling point! Agree? Disagree?

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    Aren't they only stopping new manufacturing of it ?
    There's lots in reserve that they'll clean up and resell moving forward.

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    It’s R-12 2.0. Nothing new or exciting. R-22 will still be around.
    Don’t really need any selling points. If it’s broke, fix it. If it’s really really broke, offer to fix it or replace it.
    I don’t much like selling new equipment anyway. Some of the old stuff is fun to work on.
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    And a lot of the old stuff was made better also, not like what seems to be disposable units made for sales techs.
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    R-22, will always be available, just like R-12 is available today. The same type laws that changed R-12 in ‘95(ish), are what’s happening to R-22 today. The change in laws didn’t force everyone to go buy new cars, DO NOT use it as a sales tactic. It’s called lying. R-22 is NOT illegal, R-22 equipment is NOT illegal, working on units that use R-22 is NOT illegal. The laws about leaking units only take effect if the unit holds 50 pounds of R-22. Attorneys are setting up stings in my area and have been suing companies using these tactics. Preying on uninformed consumers IS illegal. There are literally tons of R-22 in use today, and the laws require us to recover it and turn it back in for recycling/ purifying to be sold again, and again. Hopefully you’ve been misinformed, and are not intentionally using those tactics.
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    You don’t like selling new stuff? Really? Are you retired rider77? That’s where the money is! All a client is good for is making us money!!! R-22 where I’m from is $ per 30lbs. That’s way less than it has been since 2015. I really think it’s gonna be unaffordable on our part in 2 years opposed to drop ins!
    Last edited by beenthere; 08-03-2019 at 10:06 AM.

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    Good to see you again guru.
    Not retired at all. I make my money the honest way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shavedneon View Post
    R-22, will always be available, just like R-12 is available today. The same type laws that changed R-12 in ‘95(ish), are what’s happening to R-22 today. The change in laws didn’t force everyone to go buy new cars, DO NOT use it as a sales tactic. It’s called lying. R-22 is NOT illegal, R-22 equipment is NOT illegal, working on units that use R-22 is NOT illegal. The laws about leaking units only take effect if the unit holds 50 pounds of R-22. Attorneys are setting up stings in my area and have been suing companies using these tactics. Preying on uninformed consumers IS illegal. There are literally tons of R-22 in use today, and the laws require us to recover it and turn it back in for recycling/ purifying to be sold again, and again. Hopefully you’ve been misinformed, and are not intentionally using those tactics.
    We have companies here advertising that b.s. It's just scare tactics.

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    22 wont be GONE .... but it will be so expensive you wont buy any

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    Just got a flyer from a local dist in town 30lbs of R-22 is $
    Last edited by beenthere; 08-03-2019 at 10:06 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sea-sparrow View Post
    Obviously there’s a few good drop in’s. ?
    Define Drop In.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rider77 View Post
    It’s R-12 2.0. Nothing new or exciting. R-22 will still be around.
    Don’t really need any selling points. If it’s broke, fix it. If it’s really really broke, offer to fix it or replace it.
    I don’t much like selling new equipment anyway. Some of the old stuff is fun to work on.
    agree on the r12 comparison only thing I can’t stand is the word drop in. That and everyone had their flavor for substitution
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    Its an open forum. No prices allowed.
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