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    Quote Originally Posted by gustavhorna View Post
    in EU charging an electric car is about 2-3x cheaper than filling up a normal car with gas. This is due to the high taxes on gas. However do you think it will stay that way? Once there are enough electric cars government will realize that their revenue from gasoline tax is plummeting down and they will introduce electricity tax used in EV. That's 100% sure.

    So you cannot win. When you buy a beneficial technology they will make a law to tax you anyway.
    EXCELLENT POST!

    And we get screwed everytime! Do the wrong thing, taxed for it. Do the right thing, taxes for it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0zaebtU-CA

    Western civilization is taxing ourselves out of existence. On a global scale, our green tech innovation is being taxed out of incentive.... And our cheap energy is being taxed to the point of unaffordable.

    Meanwhile, chineese and indians are running around on 2 stroke engines, polluting the planet with them and building more nuclear bombs. I fear this will not end well buddy.
    "You boys are really making this thing harder than it has to be". Me

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    Quote Originally Posted by vin lashon View Post
    Your comments seem to assume points I haven't made.

    I assume the science you're referring to is Evolution that claims to be the origin of Life and matter?

    Questions about our origins are asked to those that hold the secrets. There are science secrets and metaphysical secrets. It would be a mistake to compare them or use one against the other.
    Back in history people went to the high priests of what ever religious order they submitted to learn answers. Usually ended up with more questions.
    Metaphysics is not provable. No way to test faith like a science experiment. That doesn't mean it's invalid.
    I don't think science can prove the existence of God and I don't believe religion can either. The elusive nature of God is I believe, intentional.
    Give me a relay with big enough contacts, and I'll run the world!

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    This is not looking good at all.... northern hemisphere will have its climate badly changed

    https://skepticalscience.com/north-a...t-slowing.html

    A region of the North Atlantic south of Greenland has experienced some of its coldest temperatures on record in recent years, a cooling unprecedented in the past thousand years. What explains that anomaly?

    Climatologist Michael Mann of Penn State University, in this month’s “This is Not Cool” video, explains that this phenomenon may be an indication that the North Atlantic current, part of a larger global ocean circulation, is slowing down.

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    Don't worry Gus, Bernie's got this:

    https://grist.org/article/bernie-san...k-16-trillion/

    My favourite part was about 'President Bern' declaring a National Emergency on CC. That's gonna be a sh!t show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lahrs View Post
    Don't worry Gus, Bernie's got this:

    https://grist.org/article/bernie-san...k-16-trillion/

    My favourite part was about 'President Bern' declaring a National Emergency on CC. That's gonna be a sh!t show.
    “a ten-year, nationwide mobilization centered around justice and equity” to forestall the climate crisis.

    OMG that man is a nutter.

    Scary part is, he has a great deal of support among citizens.
    "You boys are really making this thing harder than it has to be". Me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tool-Slinger View Post
    “a ten-year, nationwide mobilization centered around justice and equity” to forestall the climate crisis.

    OMG that man is a nutter.

    Scary part is, he has a great deal of support among citizens.
    "Sanders’ version calls for creating 20 million union jobs he says are necessary for averting climate disaster,"

    Eek.

    Yep. You guys have a real problem. 2020, 2024... at some point a Democrat is getting the Captains hat. A National Emergency will be declared over CC as payback for Trumps wall! Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lahrs View Post

    Yep. You guys have a real problem. 2020, 2024... at some point a Democrat is getting the Captains hat. A National Emergency will be declared over CC as payback for Trumps wall! Good luck.
    Hardly. The left will have lost so much credibility after melting down again in the 2020 loss that centrist-right will be the rule for quite some time.

    Hoaxes never quite pan out. Remember the balloon boy? That's how I think of all this CC malarkey.

    The universe will do what the universe will do. It's well documented that it always has; before man, before man had FF, after man. Till it ceases to exist as we know it (and precious little we know of it).

    So be it...we've little choice or say in the matter. Consequently, destroying the economy and upending everyone's way of life is simply a dangerous power grab.

    We see what you are trying to do and will not let it happen. Enough of this nonsense.
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    They argued that, as the Religious Right became increasingly visible and militant, it became associated with Christianity itself. And if being a Christian meant being associated with the likes of Jerry Falwell, many people—especially political moderates and liberals—decided to simply stop identifying as Christians altogether.

    http://www.theamericanconservative.c...nitys-decline/

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurtinhvac View Post

    We see what you are trying to do and will not let it happen. Enough of this nonsense.
    Your eyes are wide shut.

    Specifically, what am I trying to do? Increase scientific understanding... how dare I.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lahrs View Post
    "Sanders’ version calls for creating 20 million union jobs he says are necessary for averting climate disaster,"

    Eek.

    Yep. You guys have a real problem. 2020, 2024... at some point a Democrat is getting the Captains hat. A National Emergency will be declared over CC as payback for Trumps wall! Good luck.
    Trump will win in 20, Pence will win 24&28, then Nickie Hailey. By that time the Dems will realize they have to get back to rational thought and will move towards center.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BNME8EZ View Post
    Trump will win in 20, Pence will win 24&28, then Nickie Hailey. By that time the Dems will realize they have to get back to rational thought and will move towards center.
    I hope you are correct. Trump gets my vote again in 2020!
    "No matter how thirsty your imagination, mirages contain no water"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh B View Post
    I hope you are correct. Trump gets my vote again in 2020!
    Oh I'm 100% right . . .

    or 100% wrong . . .

    or more likely somewhere in between.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gustavhorna View Post
    This is not looking good at all.... northern hemisphere will have its climate badly changed
    Gus did you know? NASA says they have 3846 thermometers they use for watching global temperature chage. 2643 (about 70%) are place between the 30th and 60th parrallells (Northern Hemisphere) Makes me wonder why people don't understand that when you collect a disproportionate amout of data for one area compared to anothe area then average them how the data is scqewed (usually) wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BNME8EZ View Post
    Oh I'm 100% right . . .

    or 100% wrong . . .

    or more likely somewhere in between.
    With respect to Dem gaining power again and writing new laws. You know if Trump does get re-elected we will only be 1-2 years away from boiling and extinction (8 of the 10 years used up) the dems won't have time to enact new laws

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