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    After Venezuela,.... Now War with Iran?

    Over the past 72 hours, many claims that Iran "Torpedoed"/ "Mined" two oil tankers has risen up, & frankly, I'm skeptical about the whole matter.

    How many "Combatants"/ "Terrorists" go out to prove a point & only half Azz do the job?

    Seriously, .... Shouldn't it be "Go Big & Strong, or Go Home!"?

    The previous "Attacks" about ten days ago, only showed damage similar to a "Fender Bender" in a Home Depot parking lot, .... But this time, the tankers actually caught fire, & per reports that are still incoming, one tanker may have sank.

    Already, "I'm from Th' Swamp" Pompeo is pushing for Military Action, & many voices are clamoring for that, irregardless of having 100% Concrete Proof, & as usual, no concern for the severe consequences that could rise up, such as "World War Three".

    A video has been released, showing a boat full of alleged Iranians, with one reaching up to a tanker, & retrieving a "Mine" that supposedly failed to blow up. Perhaps he intends to return it, to some Chinese manufacturer for a refund?

    Another questionable thingy, is that one of the tankers is Japanese, & the Japanese Prime Minister was in Tehran, at the time of the alleged attack, meeting with Iranian Leaders!

    DANG!!! I reckon that "Iranian Republican Guard" didn't get that office memo aboy holding off any attacks until the meeting was over?

    Ya'll, ..... This is INSANITY at it's best, & "IF" this continues at the rate it's moving, ....... Our Lives & the World will very soon be FUBARED.
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    US releases video it claims shows Iran removing unexploded mine from Gulf tanker

    By Barbara Starr and Devan Cole, CNN

    Updated 3:47 AM ET, Fri June 14, 2019

    " (CNN)The United States military on Thursday released a video that it says shows an Iranian navy boat removing an unexploded mine attached to the hull of the Japanese-owned chemical tanker Kokura Courageous, one of two tankers attacked in the Gulf of Oman.
    Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on Thursday blamed Iran for attacking the Kokura Courageous and another ship, Norwegian-owned Front Altair, saying the assessment was based on intelligence. Later Thursday night, US Central Command released the video, which it says shows Iranian sailors removing a mine from the Kokura Courageous' hull.
    In the video, a smaller boat is shown coming up to the side of the Japanese-owned tanker. An individual stands up on the bow of the boat and can be seen removing an object from the tanker's hull. The US says that object is likely an unexploded mine.
    The attack comes at a time of high tensions between the US and Iran, and could provide more fodder for Iran hawks within the administration, whose recent Iran saber-rattling has frustrated President Donald Trump. One of them, national security adviser John Bolton, announced last month that the Pentagon was deploying the USS Abraham Lincoln Carrier Strike Group and a bomber task force to the Middle East in response to a "number of troubling and escalatory indications and warnings" from Iran."


    https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/13/polit...ine/index.html

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    US Releases "Smoking Gun" Video Of Iran's Navy Handling Mine On Tanker Hull

    by Tyler Durden
    Thu, 06/13/2019 - 22:27


    "In a perhaps positive sign that could slow the attempts of hawks within the administration to push for war over Thursday's mysterious attacks on two tankers in the Gulf of Oman, US Central Command issued a statement just hours after Pompeo officially blamed Tehran, saying in a CENTCOM press release that “a war with Iran is not in our strategic interest, nor in the best interest of the international community.”

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...ne-tanker-hull

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    US Navy assisting 2 tankers targeted in Gulf of Oman
    By: Jon Gambrell, The Associated Press   1 day ago



    "Secretary of State Mike Pompeo says U.S. intelligence indicates that the attacks on two tanker ships off the coast of Iran Thursday were carried out by Iran as part of large campaign of escalating tensions in region.

    Pompeo said the preferred U.S. response is still sanctions and diplomacy but “the U.S. will defend our interest” in the Middle East.

    The two massive tankers were attacked in the Gulf of Oman near the strategic Strait of Hormuz, an assault that left one ablaze and adrift as sailors were evacuated from both vessels.

    No one has claimed responsibility or explained how the tankers were attacked.

    Iran’s foreign minister called the attacks “suspicious.”

    The U.S. Navy rushed to assist amid heightened tensions between Washington and Tehran.

    A spokesman for the U.S. Central Command said 21 crew members rescued from the oil tanker Kokuka Courageous are now on board the Navy’s guided-missile destroyer Bainbridge following an explosion. Army Lt. Col. Earl Brown says the U.S. Navy ship was in international waters in the Gulf of Oman near the Courageous when it received a distress call at about 6 a.m. local time.

    Brown says the Bainbridge provided “immediate assistance” to the Courageous and its crew members after they abandoned ship."

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    Since when did "General Discussion" become a place to spread another of your sky is falling BS opinions? Take it to the basement where it belongs.
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    I'm thinkin' that You didn't get enough "Midol" in yer coffee this morning Chillr.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidDeBord View Post
    I'm thinkin' that You didn't get enough "Midol" in yer coffee this morning Chillr.
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    You need to stop watching that fake CNN garbage..it will rot your brain.

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    Since you asked...

    Iran has their back up against a very solid sanctions wall. They face an uprising that they will be changed by. President Obama left the people of Iran high and dry the last time they rose up. Because everyone else in the region fears the growing Nuke capability of Iran, chances are good that all parties will stand together against them. The attacks on the tankers were committed by factions of the Iranian armed forces, in a move to use petrol-economics to force the world back from sanctions. Since the US has become a top producer of petroleum and nat gas, this move will fail.

    The next move is up to the Iranian population.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chillrdude View Post
    Whatever you say

    Maybe David is actually expressing concern for the troops you seem to be concerned about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pageyjim View Post
    Maybe David is actually expressing concern for the troops you seem to be concerned about.
    Maybe he should express it in the proper forum, there is a place for that and it’s called ARP, or maybe it’s because you can’t post down there.
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    I am always concerned about our troops, and I believe that with the proper timing you can reduce the injuries and deaths to US Armed Forces by doing things that need to be done when they need to be done.

    Usually if you wait longer than that, our losses and injuries will increase exponentially.
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    Afraid of war with Iran?

    That's about like Andre the Giant being afraid of war with the midget dude who played on Fantasy Island.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Special-K View Post
    Afraid of war with Iran?
    It's not "the midget dude" that we should fear. It is his friends, who are not happy with us, that happen to be much bigger than Andre the Giant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian GC View Post
    It's not "the midget dude" that we should fear. It is his friends, who are not happy with us, that happen to be much bigger than Andre the Giant.
    I was referring to Iran's military capability.

    If you mean Russia, they don't want any of us either. Putin is no dummy, there would be no winners in Russia and Us getting into it. That is part of the reason he didn't want Hillary as president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Special-K View Post
    I was referring to Iran's military capability.

    If you mean Russia, they don't want any of us either. Putin is no dummy, there would be no winners in Russia and Us getting into it. That is part of the reason he didn't want Hillary as president.
    China is the other loose end. What exactly would we do if China militarily invaded Taiwan? ...Military exercises that we and Taiwan were recently rehearsing.

    What we don't need is to think that we can kick Iran around. They have allies that Saddam did not have.

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    It’s the possibility of occupation that frightens me. All those good men and women... maimed, ripped to pieces.. and killed by ieds.

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    Make the Israelis or saudis or someone else get up off their no good butts and do something.

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    Could we bomb the crap out of Iran, destroy their Air Force and Navy. Of course. But Iran would be crazy difficult to invade. Mountainous and populous. And seriously... why?? Our soldiers should risk their lives for something more than cheap gas or "global influence." Not to mention our federal debt...

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    It is looking like Iran is clearly responsible for the tanker attacks. With Iran so close to a nuclear capability, something we cannot trust them with, it seems it would be reasonable to send not only Iran a message but North Korea as well.

    North Korea and the rest of the world would get the message that we don't threaten, we act. I think we need to use this moment to use air power to take out most of Iran's military capabilities especially the nuclear sites and air power. A limited response would be a bad idea. A very strong air power response removing Iran from among the world's military powers would work. No ground troops, no boots on the ground. I think the majority of Iran's people have had it with their current government. Let them deal with a new government minus a military capability.

    The rest of the world can watch and see what we are capable of with air power and what we are willing to do to rogue countries. We also need to get out of the UN, quit funding the UN and other non allied countries until they fall in line with something more democratic.

    Just my humble opinion. PEACE THRU STRENGTH? Carry a big stick? And, use it when necessary to give it meaning.

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    Iran is in serious financial trouble!!!
    Their economy depends on exporting oil and energy products... their break even point is around $60/BBL of oil... and as we know... oil is in the mid to lower $50's...

    IMO the real question is... how long can Iran hold out, knowing they are going deeper and deeper in the 'red' financially???
    Read a report a few weeks ago... that Iran told Hezbollah in the Palestine area... that they (Iran) could no longer finance terrorism against Israel... go somewhere else to find $$$ to finance your agenda.

    Trump has Iran against the wall... they know it and Trump knows it!

    And as Hugh suggested... the Iranian people would like to get away from the radical Islamic leadership.
    Might want to google what life was like in Iran before the Ayatollah toppled the Shaw in 1979 and instituted radical Islam???
    *Women ran around in halter tops, shorts, with NO head coverings!
    *Folks more or less had freedom of speech!
    *There was actually a Christian religion established in the country... they kept to themselves and the govt ignored them!
    Side note... one has to wonder why a democrat president, who claimed to be a Christian (Jimmy Carter) stood down and allowed the Shaw to be toppled??? But that is another thread!

    Back on topic... the best thing for Iran... would be the public rise up and pitch out the current govt...
    And if necessary, Israel (our proxy that does our dirty work, so our hands stay clean)... could 'influence' the uprising as well as limit the potential for govt resistance!
    Then we (the USA) could come in and provide aid and 'influence' Iran to set up a Western style democracy... hook them on Western materialism!
    Why would the public of Iran 'want' to go back to radical Islam... if they could have the decadent Western materialistic life???

    There are less bloody solutions... if we will just get politics (read democrats) out of the way... and let them be done!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ga-hvac-tech View Post
    Iran is in serious financial trouble!!!
    Their economy depends on exporting oil and energy products... their break even point is around $60/BBL of oil... and as we know... oil is in the mid to lower $50's...

    IMO the real question is... how long can Iran hold out, knowing they are going deeper and deeper in the 'red' financially???
    Read a report a few weeks ago... that Iran told Hezbollah in the Palestine area... that they (Iran) could no longer finance terrorism against Israel... go somewhere else to find $$$ to finance your agenda.

    Trump has Iran against the wall... they know it and Trump knows it!

    And as Hugh suggested... the Iranian people would like to get away from the radical Islamic leadership.
    Might want to google what life was like in Iran before the Ayatollah toppled the Shaw in 1979 and instituted radical Islam???
    *Women ran around in halter tops, shorts, with NO head coverings!
    *Folks more or less had freedom of speech!
    *There was actually a Christian religion established in the country... they kept to themselves and the govt ignored them!
    Side note... one has to wonder why a democrat president, who claimed to be a Christian (Jimmy Carter) stood down and allowed the Shaw to be toppled??? But that is another thread!

    Back on topic... the best thing for Iran... would be the public rise up and pitch out the current govt...
    And if necessary, Israel (our proxy that does our dirty work, so our hands stay clean)... could 'influence' the uprising as well as limit the potential for govt resistance!
    Then we (the USA) could come in and provide aid and 'influence' Iran to set up a Western style democracy... hook them on Western materialism!
    Why would the public of Iran 'want' to go back to radical Islam... if they could have the decadent Western materialistic life???

    There are less bloody solutions... if we will just get politics (read democrats) out of the way... and let them be done!
    Seriously, you need to be on the president's team of consultants. GA, I usually agree with your analysis and you are on target once again. Your input is appreciated.
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