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    Tridium multi JACEs architecture enquiry

    Hi All,

    I’m new in Tridium world. I have a case and seeking your support to direct me to the best solution.
    I have multiple JACEs 8000 to be installed in different locations. All these JACEs have BACnet objects with sample rate of 5 sec.
    I need to archive the history for two years (Which is huge data) from all the JACEs, and create a main dashboard with different users permissions to access the visualised data live of their locations.

    How to collect the data? And how to visualise this data?

    Thanks in advance for your valuable support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam.egy View Post
    How to collect the data? And how to visualise this data?
    Use the supervisor and have it pull up the data as needed and serve it up from there.
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    Agree with orion. Put in a supervisor station with plenty of memory and ram. Bring in the points and import the histories and you can keep them as much longer without taxing the jaces. We typically import the histories each night and limit the history records on the jace to 500 records. You can also build a dashboard on the server.

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    Dear Gents,
    Thanks so much for your valuable reply.
    As I understood, I have to use the supervisor station as a server collecting the data at fixed interval from the JACEs (Can I use the same server with the same license to program new JACEs?).
    What if I need to troubleshoot any site before the import time (Live monitoring)?
    Is that better to build the dashboards on the same local server? Or use a 3rd party dashboard platform (Like DGLUX) to manage it?

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    The sever license is based on the number of fox stations connected to it. If you have 10 jaces you buy a 10 fox connection license. They are sold in various intervals and also have one that is unlimited number of connection but you better have a big server computer to handle that.

    The server can view the data live and ever have all the graphics. When you view a history file in the server it can automatically collect all the new data from the last import.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam.egy View Post
    Dear Gents,
    Thanks so much for your valuable reply.
    As I understood, I have to use the supervisor station as a server collecting the data at fixed interval from the JACEs (Can I use the same server with the same license to program new JACEs?).
    What if I need to troubleshoot any site before the import time (Live monitoring)?
    Is that better to build the dashboards on the same local server? Or use a 3rd party dashboard platform (Like DGLUX) to manage it?
    Yes, you can user the server license as a workbench tool to commissioning and modify stations running on JACEs. The only think the server license can't do that an installer license can is connect to controllers directly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam.egy View Post
    Is that better to build the dashboards on the same local server? Or use a 3rd party dashboard platform (Like DGLUX) to manage it?
    The N4 charts look very nice, but the point selection mechanism is quite clunky in my opinion, especially if you have multiple JACEs, so you may have to put in some elbow grease to make it easier to use. That said, I'm not a huge fan of additional dashboard software for most applications I've seen because they typically complicate the situation without adding any value and ultimately get abandoned shortly after the project is turned over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSLLC4Life View Post
    The N4 charts look very nice, but the point selection mechanism is quite clunky in my opinion,
    Did they do away with the click-n-drag to zoom in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by incontrol View Post
    Did they do away with the click-n-drag to zoom in?
    No, I was referring to the fact that a user has to drill down entirety of the station hierarchy to select a history. This can be quite a mess if if the project hasmany JACEs. There is no way to start the navigation pointed at a particular JACE either. If the ord of the history chart is pointed to a specific JACE, Niagara tries to display every history imported from that JACE. The AX history chart builder was much better in my opinion, and it still exists but generates an error when used in the web browser.

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    Dear All,

    Thanks for your appreciated support

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    You may want to look into having an SQL server

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    I previously posted this handy history video. I followed it and got good results.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAxNsvVvvWA

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