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    Quote Originally Posted by WAYNE3298 View Post
    Entitlements in my opinion has control. Politicians are afraid to cut any entitlement because they are sure they will be hated by all and can never get re-elected.
    Social Security and Medicare are NOT entitlements. Yes it can be hard to keep a promise. The result of SS cuts isn't so much being hated as putting people out on the street. Many working people would see the same if a portion of their income was cut. Many live check to check.

    I disagree that SS is a entitlement. It's not the government's money. I'm sure you know the 6.2% of our money and 6.2% of an employers money is what the fund is made from (the last time I checked).
    The Government is just the book keeper.

    It's hard to accept the idea that SS is bankrupting the government when Presidents, beginning with the sacred cow Regan, have been borrowing from the fund to balance their lying ass budgets.
    Or another round of nation building. Maybe another war.
    Maybe it's as simple as increasing our contribution. Or having congress put the fund off limits for Presidents slight-of-hand shenanigans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBeerme View Post
    You read the paper? Freakin awesome. I used to do that.

    I'm not an economist either. So I guess neither of our opinions mean anything.

    Where we disagree is how much is out of gov'ment control; Most everything is within government control.

    But you knew that, right?

    Hello again. You can have an opinion about economics even if your not a CPA because anyone knows when their broke. But that's not why I rang you up. When I hear about control I think of Monty P and the Universe Song. So for an encore, hear ya go.

    The Galaxy Song
    Monty Python
    Whenever life gets you down, Mrs. Brown,
    And things seem hard or tough,
    And people are stupid, obnoxious or daft,
    And you feel that you've had quite eno-o-o-o-o-ough,
    Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving
    And revolving at 900 miles an hour.
    It's orbiting at 19 miles a second, so it's reckoned,
    The sun that is the source of all our power.
    Now the sun, and you and me, and all the stars that we can see,
    Are moving at a million miles a day,
    In the outer spiral arm, at 40, 000 miles an hour,
    Of a galaxy we call the Milky Way.
    Our galaxy itself contains a hundred billion stars;
    It's a hundred thousand light-years side to side;
    It bulges in the middle sixteen thousand light-years thick,
    But out by us it's just three thousand light-years wide.
    We're thirty thousand light-years from Galactic Central Point,
    We go 'round every two hundred million years;
    And our galaxy itself is one of millions of billions
    In this amazing and expanding universe.
    Our universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding,
    In all of the directions it can whiz;
    As fast as it can go, at the speed of light, you know,
    Twelve million miles a minute and that's the fastest speed there is.
    So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure,
    How amazingly unlikely is your birth;
    And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere out in space,
    'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth!
    Songwriters: John Du Prez / Eric Idle
    The Galaxy Song lyrics © Sony/ATV Music Publishing LLC, Universal Music Publishing Group
    Give me a relay with big enough contacts, and I'll run the world!

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    Prominent voices huh? Alex Jones, a conspiracy theorist who claims mass shooting are staged by government "crisis actors" & that the government is putting chemicals in the water to turn people gay. Milo Yiannopoulos, a self hating British gay who for some reason became the face of the American Alt-Right. I don't even want to get into the others.

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    I agree SS is not an entitlement. I worked and paid in for 60 years. If the money I paid in had been put into a savings account it would be worth 3 to 4 times what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WAYNE3298 View Post
    I agree SS is not an entitlement. I worked and paid in for 60 years. If the money I paid in had been put into a savings account it would be worth 3 to 4 times what it is.
    SS is socialism berniecrat

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    No thanks. I'll stay home.
    No man can be both ignorant and free.
    Thomas Jefferson

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    Not exactly el-dippo. I paid in more than I'll take out. SS was started by the socialist president that has done this country more harm that any president except Obama. Socialist don't pay they take until there is nothing to take. There are a lot of people taking my SS money that should never have been put on it but again that's what socialist do.
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    Overall?

    In My Belief, ... NO.

    There's a Trade War going on, that soon, with the Tariffs that the Twitter-in-Chief is going to place on all Mexican Imports in just a few days, ..... May end up being the straw that broke the camel's back.

    The Threat of War, & actual Undeclared & Ongoing Wars, has increased, with potential Nuclear War with Russia & China increasing by the day.

    Our so called Allies in Europe, & elsewhere, are banding together, & seeking ways to by-pass the Dollar, in their Trade actions with China/ Russia & Iran, so as to not have Trump's wrath fall upon them.

    Russia & China are building a Political, Economical, & Military Union, that now has the deep interest of many a Nation, that back in the 80s, would have never even been thought of.

    The Dollar is losing it's power, as China & Russia are buying up Gold, so as to back a "Joint Currency", & they, as well as many other nations, are slowing shedding off Our Treasury Notes.

    Morally, ... We're just as Bankrupt, if not more, than We were with the Kenyan Imposter in Office.

    And Our Industry, .... Why is Ford laying off, & GM closing down factories? Why are so many of our products still made in Mexico & China?

    And as far as Our Military, being better off & more powerful? Quit Ejaculating what the Propaganda Wing of Washington keeps telling you! We've got Brand New, Multi-Billion Dollar Ships, such as the "Littoral Stealth Ships" that are breaking down, & have to be towed back to port. The F-35 Multi-purpose Jet, can be outfought & out maneuvered by the F16s & F18s that it was supposed to replace, & the Insane thing is both the ships & Jets RELY UPON CHINESE MADE PARTS! Dang! What Suit in Washington ever thought that would be a problem? We've got squadrons of F16s & F18s that can not fly because they Lack Parts! Our Military is still Under-manned, Over Deployed, & Under equipped. Despite all of the Hype professed by the War-hawk Democrats & Republicans.

    And Our New Court Justices? LMAO! They are voting with the Liberals on many Issues!!! Where many a drooling Republican Voter was pissin' all over their selves in their Joy about a Conservative Court, ... They failed to pay Attention when SCOTUS refused to hear, Or voted against several Issues that woul absolutely have made America much better than it has been in decades! Matter of Fact, .... The "Transgenders in girls bathrooms in Public Schools", just got Rejected, which now leaves, if not Appealed in a different manner, ..... The Federally Protected Right of Degenerate, Brain Dead, Satanically Inspired, Homosexual Males to enter Your Daughter's Public School Bathrooms, & wag their "Henry" around as they talk about their "Inner Female".

    What about Trump publicly stating that he's in being in favor of the "Red flag Laws"? Did You Gun Owners pay attention to that?

    But Hey! If all of the Above, & much more, doesn't concern You, ..... Then Hale Yeah!!! It's a wonderful Day in the Neighborhood.
    Hos 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you may be no priest to me. Because you have forgotten your God’s law, I will also forget your children.


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    Is this you?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oNd1neRi7s

    The first 30 seconds was great. Couldn't hang any longer than that though. I like how you put your cap on backwards, nice move.


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    David our position militarily, economically and otherwise with respect to the world is a culmination of the policies of all presidents and congress members before Trump. Whether his approach is right or wrong Trump is trying to set things right and that makes him the only president I have seen with the courage to deal with the issues everyone else has ran from. The unfair trade deals he is trying to fix are indeed unfair and have cost this country factory job after factory job. I did design on military facilities for years and can tell you made America is definitely in the specs. I can also tell you the stupid trade deals did more to weaken our military than anything I know of. In the late 70's we didn't even have one production facility for the basic ingredient of weapons grade rocket fuel. We designed and built one but why was such a critical production facility lost? Stupid trade deals were a major contributor. Our military should not be dependent on any other country for anything needed to carry out their missions. We can either fight back or lay down and let the rest of the world roll over us and you can bet they will roll over us given the chance. Our major contribution to WW2 was our ability to massively produce anything and everything necessary to win and in most cases we simply produced more than the enemies could destroy.
    The problem with people illegally entering the country should have never existed and congress is too stupid to help fix it.
    Trump is fighting back and I support that 100%. I would much rather go down fighting than go down with a mouth full of some dictators rear getting killed while trying to kiss my way out. We can make the world regret trying to destroy us in everyway they try and with Trump in office if they try they will have regrets.
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    WE are worse off and will continue to go down hill. Damn I hate to be negative!!!

    Here is the problem as I see it, we are divided. Something tells me that most of you noticed this as the divide has been growing more and more over the years.

    This division has gotten to the place where you can no longer enjoy free speech for fear of being attacked. A conservative was handing out pamphlets on a college campus and got shouted off campus. They were not talking or voicing opinion, just giving literature to those interested. Comedians are chased offstage for telling the wrong joke. It has gotten to the point where civil discourse is seldom possible. If we can not talk to each other and be civil about it, find out the concerns of both sides and come to an understanding how can we effectively move forward? We all know in life there is not stagnation, you are either moving forward or you are declining. If we can not discuss reasonably we can not move forward so we are in a constant state of decline.

    I agree with PHM about our elected officials. We are electing them but not out of position of knowledge but a position of fear. The same fear that they themselves have instilled in the uninformed in order to gather more power for themselves, a power they do not want to relinquish.

    I see the sham of the Congressional hearings and wonder how can thee people keep getting elected! I hear their absurd remarks and wonder how it is that the population as a whole can not see through the BS. How can they put up with Pelosi saying "we have to vote for it before we will know what's in it". Then we have AOC and her ravings. I heard the mayor of NYC when he announced his running for the presidency "this country has enough money, it is just in the wrong hands"! Seriously did he just say that? Trump has put out his share of doesies as well as RINOs in both houses. Yet we continue to look to these for leadership. They have no leadership, only a lust for power, more power.

    It matters not how well I am doing when there is never any assurance that those less fortunate will rise up against the success i have had or that those in power will seek to drive me deeper into poverty. We have seen on this site how the mere site of the American flag can insight many negative emotions and not the proud emotions that it should.

    Where does it end? It ends with the country sliding into chaos or closing the divide and finding some real leaders that will work for the good of the country first, the american people second and themselves last. Our Founding Fathers knew that being elected was not a move into power but a position of servitude. That is why term limits were never needed. They would serve then make room for the next. What do you suppose would happen if you were to remind the stuffed suits in DC that they are not Overlords but servants of the masses. They would laugh at you while their bodyguards were throwing you in the street.

    If fear for my offspring and their future generations. DDB has a thread about stopping the senseless shootings. He recently posted an article about the lost Freedom of this country. I know in that thread that others have popped off that life in America is has not changed. It occurred to me reading the article that many in this country have never know the true freedom that once availed itself upon this country. That freedom slowly drained itself from the big cities, the it slowly crept out of the smaller towns, then the coasts finally fleeing the heartland where I was born and raised. I can see where I got a fleeting glimpse of that Freedom, just the slightest taste of the sweetness of life freedom brings. I do not know if we can ever get back that age of true freedom. Sure we are more free than most of the world but it was that true freedom that made us the greatest nation on the planet. That freedom to succeed or fail. Where your independence made up your individuality, not your cloths or tattoos or piercings, etc. It gave us a pride we were born with, a pride that has all but disappeared with an almost inbreed desire for government assistance.

    I'll quit here.

    Damn, I didn't know I could be this negative on a beautiful, sunny Saturday morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BNME8EZ View Post
    WE are worse off and will continue to go down hill. Damn I hate to be negative!!!

    Here is the problem as I see it, we are divided. Something tells me that most of you noticed this as the divide has been growing more and more over the years.

    This division has gotten to the place where you can no longer enjoy free speech for fear of being attacked. A conservative was handing out pamphlets on a college campus and got shouted off campus. They were not talking or voicing opinion, just giving literature to those interested. Comedians are chased offstage for telling the wrong joke. It has gotten to the point where civil discourse is seldom possible. If we can not talk to each other and be civil about it, find out the concerns of both sides and come to an understanding how can we effectively move forward? We all know in life there is not stagnation, you are either moving forward or you are declining. If we can not discuss reasonably we can not move forward so we are in a constant state of decline.

    I agree with PHM about our elected officials. We are electing them but not out of position of knowledge but a position of fear. The same fear that they themselves have instilled in the uninformed in order to gather more power for themselves, a power they do not want to relinquish.

    I see the sham of the Congressional hearings and wonder how can thee people keep getting elected! I hear their absurd remarks and wonder how it is that the population as a whole can not see through the BS. How can they put up with Pelosi saying "we have to vote for it before we will know what's in it". Then we have AOC and her ravings. I heard the mayor of NYC when he announced his running for the presidency "this country has enough money, it is just in the wrong hands"! Seriously did he just say that? Trump has put out his share of doesies as well as RINOs in both houses. Yet we continue to look to these for leadership. They have no leadership, only a lust for power, more power.

    It matters not how well I am doing when there is never any assurance that those less fortunate will rise up against the success i have had or that those in power will seek to drive me deeper into poverty. We have seen on this site how the mere site of the American flag can insight many negative emotions and not the proud emotions that it should.

    Where does it end? It ends with the country sliding into chaos or closing the divide and finding some real leaders that will work for the good of the country first, the american people second and themselves last. Our Founding Fathers knew that being elected was not a move into power but a position of servitude. That is why term limits were never needed. They would serve then make room for the next. What do you suppose would happen if you were to remind the stuffed suits in DC that they are not Overlords but servants of the masses. They would laugh at you while their bodyguards were throwing you in the street.

    If fear for my offspring and their future generations. DDB has a thread about stopping the senseless shootings. He recently posted an article about the lost Freedom of this country. I know in that thread that others have popped off that life in America is has not changed. It occurred to me reading the article that many in this country have never know the true freedom that once availed itself upon this country. That freedom slowly drained itself from the big cities, the it slowly crept out of the smaller towns, then the coasts finally fleeing the heartland where I was born and raised. I can see where I got a fleeting glimpse of that Freedom, just the slightest taste of the sweetness of life freedom brings. I do not know if we can ever get back that age of true freedom. Sure we are more free than most of the world but it was that true freedom that made us the greatest nation on the planet. That freedom to succeed or fail. Where your independence made up your individuality, not your cloths or tattoos or piercings, etc. It gave us a pride we were born with, a pride that has all but disappeared with an almost inbreed desire for government assistance.

    I'll quit here.

    Damn, I didn't know I could be this negative on a beautiful, sunny Saturday morning.
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