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    No Fuses

    Same house... same system.

    Some damn sorry ass people out there.

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    Well they’ll never blow. They’ll still be there when the house burns down.
    If I do a job in 30 minutes it's because I spent 30 years learning how to do that in 30 minutes. You owe me for the years, not the minutes.

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    That is some blatant do not give a shit right there. Homeowner do that?

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    I have seen that, but at the SUPPLY in the breaker box, there was a PROPER amperage circuit breaker.
    Is that OK???
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    Looks like a non fused disconnect and fine AFAIK if the breaker is the right size. The jumper on the low voltage fuse terminals is another story.

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    The title of this thread should be no fusses!!
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    Leave a valve closed & let the HO call the regular company ,,,, sit in your truck & wait for them to show ,,,, give them a piece when they arrive.


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    Ive seen both of those before, not on the same system though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by corny View Post
    Same house... same system.

    Some damn sorry ass people out there.

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    At least the Dead Spiders show which leg is the "Hottest".

    And, ... Those "Permanent Fuses" were made with quite a bit of Care & "Craftsmanship".
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    Quote Originally Posted by STEVEusaPA View Post
    Well they’ll never blow. They’ll still be there when the house burns down.
    The fire marshal will have plenty of time for beers on the day he conducts an investigation at that address.

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    we call those Ben Franklins

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    Somebody took the time to do the wrong thing...ummm....right?

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    Supposed the installer had used an un-fused disconnect - would that be equally condemned?
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    This is why you always check with a Meter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poodle Head Mikey View Post
    Supposed the installer had used an un-fused disconnect - would that be equally condemned?
    That would depend on the size of CB in panel vs the max allowable CB size of the condensing unit.

    The only time I've used a fused disconnect is to save having to change a larger current obsolete/more expensive CB in panel.

    Based on the wiring size in that disconnect, I'd suggest that is what the electrician who installed it was doing... if it was done right before the copper fuses were used.

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    I'm not aware of any code that says fuses are required at the unit.
    I do a triple evac with nitro to remove non condensables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBeerme View Post
    I'm not aware of any code that says fuses are required at the unit.
    Just some form of disconnecting means within a specified distance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by STEVEusaPA View Post
    Well they’ll never blow. They’ll still be there when the house burns down.
    Well Said Steve! These Thousand Amp Bubba/Hack Fuses Never Die, They Just Become Black, from the "Ensuing House Fire".

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    I am not an NEC Maven but the only reason that I can think of to have a fused disconnect is if the panel's circuit breaker rating exceeds the unit's maximum allowable protection. In that case the fuses in the disconnect bring the circuit back into compliance with the unit's maximum-allowable number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBeerme View Post
    I'm not aware of any code that says fuses are required at the unit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poodle Head Mikey View Post
    I am not an NEC Maven but the only reason that I can think of to have a fused disconnect is if the panel's circuit breaker rating exceeds the unit's maximum allowable protection. In that case the fuses in the disconnect bring the circuit back into compliance with the unit's maximum-allowable number.

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    Yup. I can still remember the very first time I saw fuses in a disconnect, called my boss and he told me to check the circuit breaker panel. Everything was fine, might still be that way today. Except it was 30 years ago.
    I do a triple evac with nitro to remove non condensables.

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