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    But now they we humans are here and by or superior intelect we have concluded normal to be stable and unchanging. If it does we are the cause

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    What I really love is the scientist and environmentalist have taken the data from the 1930 and rewrote it to fit what they believe it should have been, to support their claims not what is really was. Look at the data; tables and charts they use to show how bad it is today. Most only go back about 50 years so the temperatures from the 30's are excluded or have been rewritten. I forget the actual year in the 30's there was a period when the whole USA (and up into Canada) was above 100F. That squews the data so it must be wrong.

    I see things likes the grand canyon, death valley, the sphinx at the great piramids, it is 100% evident they have all been covered with water and had lush vegitation at some time (Noah and the great flood is just a story that did not really happen), but yet many beleive we will be the cause of the ice at the poles melting and flood much of the world.

    Sorry I'm down off my soap box.

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    Using Ice core samples they can determine the temp of the earth thousands of years ago. We are not any warmer today than we were at other points in history.

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    The real cause of global warming is all the hot air coming out trumps mouth with over 10,000 lies since the election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by valdelocc View Post
    The real cause of global warming is all the hot air coming out trumps mouth with over 10,000 lies since the election.
    https://www.politifact.com/personali...yruling/false/
    I thought all of the hot air was coming from Mueller's team?
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    The problem with a greenhouse gas model is that Mars is getting hotter as well, and it has nearly zero atmosphere. And, there are no humans driving cars or venting refrigerants.

    ALL heat comes from from the sun, either right at this moment, or thousands of years ago. It all comes from that star called Sol.

    There is nothing, repeat, NOTHING that we as humans can do about any climate changes. Nada.
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    So whats up with the ice melting ?

    Im not sure its related but it seems like storms are getting a little more powerful , and tornados pop up places they dont normally do ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snapperhead View Post
    So whats up with the ice melting ? ...
    I dont know, Im trying to charge the atmosphere with as much Freon as I can but its as though its still low on charge... maybe it has too many non-condensables.


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    Quote Originally Posted by thatguy View Post
    I don’t know, I’m trying to charge the atmosphere with as much Freon as I can but it’s as though it’s still low on charge... maybe it has too many non-condensables.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Snapperhead View Post
    So whats up with the ice melting ?
    What you have not heard the temperature is going to go up 3 Degrees in the next 100 years and all the ice at both poles is going to melt. Iceburgs are already breaking off in record numbers and size. The sea level has already gone up and 1/10 in the last 50 years. Don't you listen to our environmental friends?

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    Ya know guys...

    There is this big island up north of the Atlantic ocean...
    Which is called Greenland...
    Yet is covered with ice...
    There are records of folks farming the very land that is covered with ice!

    Who is to say what is normal and what is not???

    And do you really think a govt that cannot:
    *Manage a budget
    *Fix simple things like infrastructure
    *Manage a stable economy
    (And more than we could discuss in the next decade)
    Can fix a problem as massive as climate change????

    That belief (that the govt could fix climate change)...
    Is about as real as chasing a rainbow looking for a pot of gold!

    But then... the polecats see a pot of gold if they can sell the lie and enough folks believe it...
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    There are people who say there is manmade global warming / climate change.
    There are people who say that there is no manmade global warming / climate change.

    None of them can say with provable, or even reasonable, certainty what either caused it or failed to cause it - or what the effect has actually been.

    Something that amazes me is that despite all that uncertainty - solutions to it are plentiful and often stated as certainties.

    The problem to me is that on any lengthening timeline variables are unavoidable. And these errors (to the projection path) are cumulative in effect. So the longer your projection is - the more vague it's outcome becomes. Eventually of course becoming a mere guess. And it's actually worse than just a guess as the adding and combining of variables could just as easily lead to a negative, and of course unpredictable outcome - we could end up worse off than when we started.

    So, ignoring thermodynamics of course, maybe we should have:

    The Entropy Model For Climate Repair. <g>
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    Got to love it when the greenies keep saying all the ice is melting at the 'north pole'. Then neglect to tell you it is growing thicker at the south pole.
    If you were a real tech, you'd solder a relay on that board and call it good to go.

    I do a triple evac with nitro to remove non condensables.

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