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    And I wasn't trying to out-do the rubbish job you posted. <g>

    I was just offering up an example of how to do it. I actually did that repair for a local guy who said that he had never seen it down. And it occurred to me that maybe some people here haven't seen it done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lzenglish View Post
    YES, and "I DID NOT DO THIS MESS", So I Can't Answer That Question !Just Plucked it off the Net "FOR FUN", and now Mikey is trying to out do it. LMAO !!!
    Hell's Fire, a Drunken Blind Man could out do this Shit .....
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    And you sir; are my new hero.

    How did you manage that feat?

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    I really thought that people here would question/judge that roof install of mine. <g>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poodle Head Mikey View Post
    And you sir; are my new hero.

    How did you manage that feat?

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    Copied the picture and uploaded it to imgur.com which has edit capabilities. It also has fast ways to C&P to forums, bb’s, etc.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Poodle Head Mikey View Post
    I really thought that people here would question/judge that roof install of mine. <g>
    Only things to improve would be to paint the platform, and get a “more professional” block for the lineset. The construction of the platform is superb.

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    I've had fair luck pounding the casing holes back and brazing over where it rubbed thru.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poodle Head Mikey View Post
    I really thought that people here would question/judge that roof install of mine. <g>
    How could you put you filter drier outside!!? lol that wooden stand and the 2x4 underneath the lineset are all things I wouldn't of done or done differently, but that's just me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poodle Head Mikey View Post
    I really thought that people here would question/judge that roof install of mine. <g>
    The biggest problem I see with it is that in a few years when the shingles need replaced it will have have to come down. Most shinglers I know would throw it off the roof with the old shingles cause they don't want to deal with working around, under, or moving it several times.

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    I still haven't attempted welding the tubesheet right to the copper but summer is coming.

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    I was waiting for someone to nail you for using all of that pressure treated lumber.


    Quote Originally Posted by Poodle Head Mikey View Post
    I really thought that people here would question/judge that roof install of mine. <g>
    I do a triple evac with nitro to remove non condensables.

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    I have soldered coils on many different occasions but gave it up when I started seeing you fix holes A,B, & C, then come back next year and fix D,E,F, & G. It just doesn't seem to be a permanent enough fix to be cost worthy, of course they were all on evaps.

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    Originally I didn't know that things were impossible. And I didn't know that you could just say that you weren't going to do something.

    Early on my mew boss sent me out to a job to change filters, check belts and bearings, and so forth. He reminded me frequently that the whole point of a PM Program was to sell the customer additional work. So on one unit I saw an oil stain on a condenser coil - in the middle of the coil - and checked it with soap: bubbles.

    Later I ran into the building manager downstairs and told him about the leak - would he approve the repair? (I'm selling some additional work, right? <g>)

    Sure; just put it on the ticket and I'll sign it before you leave.

    So transfer the refrigerant to two other units - until they go off on high pressure - and then blow out the remainder of the charge. I gingerly cut into the coil to expose the tube. Which I end up smashing up a bit. So I used four 90º ells and some little pieces of copper tubing to replace that maybe 4-5" area of condenser tube I had ham-handed. It stuck out the side of the coil, past the fins, which looked a little weird, but it didn't leak.

    I didn't have new driers but I ran a vacuum pump for an hour and then charged in gas from the other units. And then topped it off from a cylinder. By the end of the day I had all the other units PM'ed, the leak fixed, and the three involved units running again.

    It wan't until later that I learned that one of my co-workers had previously found that leak and then my boss had pronounced it unrepairable and had sold the customer a new condenser for $20,000. or something. It had been found at spring start-up but the customer didn't want the unit down for a long time so the coil replacement was scheduled for the fall/winter. The real mechanics at my company was just adding refrigerant all the time to keep it cooling until then.

    The building manager (who knew the whole story already when I asked him if he would approve the repair) was very happy - but my boss was not happy at all. <g>

    That building manager later became the facilities manager for a large national corporation some years later and called me at my house to ask who I worked for now. I told him: myself, and he ended up giving me lots and Lots of work for a number years and never once questioned a proposal or an invoice.

    He would tell the story of how we met at every opportunity. <g>
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    In NJ I would have built the platform out of 2" aluminum angle and SS bolts. But here I don't have ready access to stuff like that.

    I would have preferred that the exposed portion of the lineset be shorter but the I didn't want that huge condenser visible from the front street and the attic space directly under the unit is essentially zero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coharra88 View Post
    How could you put you filter drier outside!!? lol that wooden stand and the 2x4 underneath the lineset are all things I wouldn't of done or done differently, but that's just me
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    The only roofer who's work I am willing to accept is me. <g> And I only install metal - never shingles.

    But that roof is scheduled to have all the shingles coated with white latex roof coating here pretty soon - so the the shingles will never get replaced - if that experiment continues to succeed. <g>

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    Quote Originally Posted by BNME8EZ View Post
    The biggest problem I see with it is that in a few years when the shingles need replaced it will have have to come down. Most shinglers I know would throw it off the roof with the old shingles cause they don't want to deal with working around, under, or moving it several times.
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    I have never once been able to make that work. Have you had good luck with doing it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VTP99 View Post
    I still haven't attempted welding the tubesheet right to the copper but summer is coming.
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    A part of my thinking was that I built a deck in Florida at least ten years ago and just pressure washed and coated it. It still looks nice. And just recently I re-covered an ugly neglected deck that was about 25 years old. I was too lazy to tear it out - so I just 're-faced' it on the sides and top with new PT lumber. <g>

    Which is where the scraps to build this roof platform came from. <g>

    So the PT deck-wood platform will probably last as long as the condensing unit. Which is probably 10-15 years old already and has a 20+ year old compressor in it besides. <g>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poodle Head Mikey View Post
    Originally I didn't know that things were impossible. And I didn't know that you could just say that you weren't going to do something.

    Early on my mew boss sent me out to a job to change filters, check belts and bearings, and so forth. He reminded me frequently that the whole point of a PM Program was to sell the customer additional work. So on one unit I saw an oil stain on a condenser coil - in the middle of the coil - and checked it with soap: bubbles.

    Later I ran into the building manager downstairs and told him about the leak - would he approve the repair? (I'm selling some additional work, right? <g>)

    Sure; just put it on the ticket and I'll sign it before you leave.

    So transfer the refrigerant to two other units - until they go off on high pressure - and then blow out the remainder of the charge. I gingerly cut into the coil to expose the tube. Which I end up smashing up a bit. So I used four 90º ells and some little pieces of copper tubing to replace that maybe 4-5" area of condenser tube I had ham-handed. It stuck out the side of the coil, past the fins, which looked a little weird, but it didn't leak.

    I didn't have new driers but I ran a vacuum pump for an hour and then charged in gas from the other units. And then topped it off from a cylinder. By the end of the day I had all the other units PM'ed, the leak fixed, and the three involved units running again.

    It wan't until later that I learned that one of my co-workers had previously found that leak and then my boss had pronounced it unrepairable and had sold the customer a new condenser for $20,000. or something. It had been found at spring start-up but the customer didn't want the unit down for a long time so the coil replacement was scheduled for the fall/winter. The real mechanics at my company was just adding refrigerant all the time to keep it cooling until then.

    The building manager (who knew the whole story already when I asked him if he would approve the repair) was very happy - but my boss was not happy at all. <g>

    That building manager later became the facilities manager for a large national corporation some years later and called me at my house to ask who I worked for now. I told him: myself, and he ended up giving me lots and Lots of work for a number years and never once questioned a proposal or an invoice.

    He would tell the story of how we met at every opportunity. <g>
    I do a triple evac with nitro to remove non condensables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VTP99 View Post
    I still haven't attempted welding the tubesheet right to the copper but summer is coming.
    I can't think of how to prevent the tube sheet from corroding under the braze.
    It's an upside down world we live in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spitz View Post
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    How long has that been holding up now?
    It's an upside down world we live in.

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