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    Adapter used on small gas valves to check manifold pressure

    I've been seeing this more and more in the field. The latest gas valve was a White Rogers 36J22Y-202 on a Amana gas furnace. This valve had two ports, an in and an out pressure trap but they are really small Allen keys caps or I guess you could call then screws. My Manometer came with a bunch of attachments to test damn near anything except these type of gas valves.

    Any help would be appreciated.

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    Have to ask your distributor for it. A new in the box gas valve comes with one too. Had my distributor get me one and a few weeks later got another with a replacement gas valve. But your right it’s very small.


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    I'll ask our distributor again on Monday. When I asked the last time they looked at me like I was talking a foreign language.

    Thanks for your input.

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    If it's the one I'm thinking of, try googling "adapter kit for 36g valve". Amazon has them.

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    Adapter used on small gas valves to check manifold pressure

    Just loosen the screw, and fit a tube over the entire port. Thats how its intended to work.


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    Quote Originally Posted by heatingman View Post
    Just loosen the screw, and fit a tube over the entire port. Thats how its intended to work.


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    This^^^

    Just loosen it a 1/4 turn and iirc 5/16 ID hose fits over it.

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    I remember when I first ran into one of these valves. Had to call another tech to get the proper connection. Then I got one for myself. Ithink the valave was called a Genus valve or something like that. That adapter should be available at any parts house.

    I actually like it better than the other style.
    Can someone please explain to me -
    Why is there never enough time to do it right the first time, but plenty of time to do it twice?


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    Quote Originally Posted by heatingman View Post
    Just loosen the screw, and fit a tube over the entire port. Thats how its intended to work.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jtrammel View Post
    This^^^

    Just loosen it a 1/4 turn and iirc 5/16 ID hose fits over it.
    I have tried finding the correct size tubing, but have had no luck.
    As stated above, they looked at me like I was crazy when I asked at the supply houses.

    I finally drilled out a piece of tubing to go over that port.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heatingman View Post
    Just loosen the screw, and fit a tube over the entire port. Thats how its intended to work.


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    After reading this I thought, "omg, that makes perfect sense".

    For 20+ years I've been wondering why they haven't made an easier way to check gas pressure on gas valves. There it was staring me in the face.

    My first boss used to tell me, "step back and think outside of the box".

    Btw, this forum is awesome. I didn't have the internet back when I first got into the trade. What a valuable resource to have at your fingertips.......

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    Fieldpiece RMA316

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    Soft rubber or silicone tubing will expand to fit. If you use hard plastic tubing you're going to have a hard time trying to fit exactly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by napoleon-dynomite View Post
    After reading this I thought, "omg, that makes perfect sense".

    For 20+ years I've been wondering why they haven't made an easier way to check gas pressure on gas valves. There it was staring me in the face.

    My first boss used to tell me, "step back and think outside of the box".

    Btw, this forum is awesome. I didn't have the internet back when I first got into the trade. What a valuable resource to have at your fingertips.......
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    Is this the valve in question ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by joemach View Post
    Ithink the valave was called a Genus valve or something like that.
    Gemini I believe ....

    I have had quite a few failures with this type valve, the switch or something .... seems to have a high failure rate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blake79 View Post
    Fieldpiece RMA316
    Looks like the ones I have.
    Can someone please explain to me -
    Why is there never enough time to do it right the first time, but plenty of time to do it twice?


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    Quote Originally Posted by hvacskills View Post
    Gemini I believe ....

    I have had quite a few failures with this type valve, the switch or something .... seems to have a high failure rate
    I believe you are correct, sir- Gemini sounds about right.

    I was close.
    Can someone please explain to me -
    Why is there never enough time to do it right the first time, but plenty of time to do it twice?


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    https://www.supplyhouse.com/Fieldpie...pter-3-16-5-16 is the product

    Comes standard with this meter https://www.fieldpiece.com/products/...ster/pressure/

    Those slide over where you check gas pressure.

    Product code is RMA316

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    Quote Originally Posted by 335 guy View Post
    If it's the one I'm thinking of, try googling "adapter kit for 36g valve". Amazon has them.
    just bought one of Amazon

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    got it yesterday, like 15 bucks, imagine could have bought the barbed fitting and hose cheaper, believe the fitting is 1/4 " - 5/16 "

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/White-Rodge...aXS4:rk:1:pf:0

    but it is nice a big so easier not to get lost and it is done ...... been using a hose that came with a gas valve but always nice to have more than one .... thanks for the information
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    Yes, that is the valve in question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tenletters View Post
    https://www.supplyhouse.com/Fieldpie...pter-3-16-5-16 is the product

    Comes standard with this meter https://www.fieldpiece.com/products/...ster/pressure/

    Those slide over where you check gas pressure.

    Product code is RMA316
    I just bought that kit a couple months ago. I was wondering what those extra pieces were for, haha. I bought the meter to test pressure switches and to set up the universal pressure switches if I'm in a pinch.

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