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    Quote Originally Posted by acjourneyman View Post
    What's a UA chiller guy with a general journeyman WA electrical license worth up there.
    I will take "Whatever you want!" for $200 Alex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acjourneyman View Post
    What's a UA chiller guy with a general journeyman WA electrical license worth up there.
    For a good chiller guy you could get $5-$15 over scale so $65-$75 an hour plus a $20 an hour benefit package.
    (We need a good chiller guy)


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    $5 to $15 over scale? In the Local out here, you'd be lucky if you can get "Applied" scale full-time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdrianOmarPerez View Post
    $5 to $15 over scale? In the Local out here, you'd be lucky if you can get "Applied" scale full-time.

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    Local 32 seattle almost every shop pays over scale here especially for chiller guys

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    True Jm is equal to Applied. What do I mean by "true"? All Covered Work being performed by an "(ME)SJ" or a "BTJ dispatched as Service". The majority of Jm are not being paid true Jm wage.

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    Most service guys in my local make over scale regardless what type of equipment they service.
    There is not better place for the working men than the union! 100% UA the only HVAC union!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdrianOmarPerez View Post
    $5 to $15 over scale? In the Local out here, you'd be lucky if you can get "Applied" scale full-time.

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    You should pack and move up north, get your money and your pension in order and 20 years later retire and move back south.
    There is not better place for the working men than the union! 100% UA the only HVAC union!

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    I get General Foreman scale, I am not included in the group that gets paid less.

    I have survived 2 embezzlements and trusteeships. My time in the field in limited.

    Check out the language for yourself. Terrible, in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdrianOmarPerez View Post
    I get General Foreman scale, I am not included in the group that gets paid less.

    I have survived 2 embezzlements and trusteeships. My time in the field in limited.

    Check out the language for yourself. Terrible, in my opinion.

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    Is this out of your locals bylaws?
    I have never heard of applied journeyman. We are all BTJ here. Well whatever a good chiller guy will get 65-75 dollars an hour here whatever term you want to use.
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    That is the AZ Local's Agreement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    A few years ago, the former editor of CB (Mike) made a post prior to one of the Comfortech gatherings. I think that post has vanished, but it went something like, "If you could ask the head of an HVAC manufacturer a question, what would it be?"
    Let me help:

    https://hvac-talk.com/vbb/showthread...at-would-it-be

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdrianOmarPerez View Post
    That is the AZ Local's Agreement.

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    So this applied journeyman is something that your local has nothing that we have here. So yes then I’m talking about a “true” journeyman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdrianOmarPerez View Post
    I get General Foreman scale, I am not included in the group that gets paid less.

    I have survived 2 embezzlements and trusteeships. My time in the field in limited.

    Check out the language for yourself. Terrible, in my opinion.

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    This is similar to what we have. In my local, just north and south of Buttwheat’s local, we are all classified as serviceman (mes). We get classified as BTJ for bid jobs (not service calls) on equipment over 30 tons or any government jobs. I am paid about double serviceman scale, but only get the BTJ benefits when on a job that qualifies. Still a pretty good deal in my opinion, just not as good as Buttwheat’s local.

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