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  1. #14
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    I'm happy I always worked commercial.
    Quote Originally Posted by MatrixTransform View Post
    very soon it is you that will be pwned

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    Same here no homeowner bird doging you then complaining about there bill

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    Quote Originally Posted by pecmsg View Post
    Join the UNION!

    Get educated and paid while you learn

    Get benefits
    A spot on recommendation, it sounds like you could benefit from this. I completely agree.

    With the hours you say you are working you should be getting overtime compensation. So if you are working 12 hour days some of those hours will be paid at time plus half, and some also at double time rates.

    I'm not sure what is in the local agreement in your area but anything over a 10 hour day, for my local, and the company buys us dinner as well.

    There are union dues which I was always concerned about before I joined the union but after I joined I realized how under paid I was and how the union dues were such a small drop in the bucket.

    Your stress levels would decrease greatly also because you will have rights that protect you from being taken advantage of by the employer threatening your job if you don't work those long hours.

    Our ongoing education is covered by the union.

    Ultimately the decision is yours but I think it would be worth your while for you to look into and consider.


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    Honestly, from what I just read, it sounds as if you should switch careers.
    Go be happy man.

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    You're just hitting the mark where it is easy to find work. A lot, if not most, help wanted adds will say 3-5 years experience. So you're right there. Sounds to me like you're in the right career, just not the right employer.

    My last job did a lot of refrigeration, and a typical work week was 60-70 hours. Wasn't like that in the beginning, things just got worse as time went on. So a time came when I had to give notice to regain a normal lifestyle. Do like the guys above have mentioned, look for a company that does commercial, or look towards the union. Either one, you'll be happy you did.
    I do a triple evac with nitro to remove non condensables.

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    Just be honest with yourself. You're willingly developing your own stress because you're trying to rationalize going to a pathetic job every day that you hate....you're stagnating, unchallenged, and bored while trying to hit the boss's numbers. Save the stress for when a loved one gets seriously sick, your house burns down, or a stock market crash.

    If you're any good at what you do, you take the initiative to address customers problems and solve them. Be more selfish and do the same for yourself.

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    Lot's of thing in your posts to talk about. The best advice given is go apply for a UA apprenticeship at the local union hall. A great income can be made in HVAC both in or out of the union. You left a lot of information out if you wanted some "on target" recommendations. But you may have to be willing to move to a different area to get a better job and better pay. The sad thing is so many in this country believe $20/hr is a good wage

    I don't care if you tell us or not, but you have to answer for yourself what is it that is causing you the stress? Then deal with reducing the stress.

    To obtain a contractor, journeyman license in most areas who require licenses you must have 4 to 5 years of verifiable work experience and training. What I am getting at and as others have suggested you probably do not have as much knowledge as you think you have. Have you asked your boss to send you to training so you can be a bigger asset to him? Have you taken any additional training you can show your boss you are improving your skills?

    Just remember the grass is always greener. With respect to Commercial/Industrial, unless you are doing a scheduled PM you are always a day late, because they wanted whatever fixed yesterday when they called.

    Gut feel: Apply for an apprenticeship. Follow up with your boss about the raise, try to resolve the stress issue, ask if your boss will create a plan for advancement. That should answer if you are working for the wrong company. The problem with moving to a new job now, your next employer is looking a 3 jobs in 3 years, what’s wrong with this guy?

    Good Luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Answer-Man View Post
    . ……….. The sad thing is so many in this country believe $20/hr is a good wage...……………………………………….
    So true!!!
    I miss you mom and dad.

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    Try to find a Union Shop. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but here in Arizona you can count the Service Contractors on 3 hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneofTrades View Post
    Honestly, from what I just read, it sounds as if you should switch careers.
    Go be happy man.
    Best advice you have gotten here.

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    Yeah. He could go be a cashier at a Target.
    I do a triple evac with nitro to remove non condensables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBeerme View Post
    Yeah. He could go be a cashier at a Target.
    No need for bullshit like that man. Just because you may have more experience than others doesn't make the others skill-less.
    I ended up moving on from that position due to the stress. I'm unemployed as of now, unsure if I want to continue this career. My automotive certs are expired, and HVAC is my 2nd best skill. I'm stuck in a bind with what I want to do with myself. Thinking of taking a pay cut and getting into commercial.

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    there are few silver bullets in this field ... full of trade offs .....

    from the sound of it, with your old company doing mostly residential your old position was probably more of a ' plug in ' position with little room for growth, probably better off to not be working there any longer

    just to let you know one advantage of being heavy on preventive maintenance is it helps reduce breakdowns which allows for more predictable hours, it also allows a company to schedule work out over a period of time for more guaranteed revenue during off peak seasons

    going union is not the all to end all either ...... could end up working for a company surrounded by overpaid primidonnas doing sub standard work, and being happy with your work is just as important as anything else .... although I would not rule out that option

    with only 3 years experience I would look for a company that does both residential and commercial, and explain going in that you want to move toward being a commercial technician, that would get you some commercial experience in the event you want to move on to a company that does almost all commercial work

    or consider going in house with a somewhat big company .... pay might not be bad, the hours are going to be more predictable, but you may get bored ....

    here is a little secret you should know ... now a days it is difficult to find competent HVAC technicians ( or other competent tradesmen for that matter ), so I would definitely be realizing that as I presented myself to future possible employers, DO NOT UNDER ESTIMATE THIS ... if you land with the right company and if you are as good as you are trying to come across you may end up being pretty happy

    GOOD LUCK MAN !

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