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    Quote Originally Posted by BBeerme View Post
    Took me longer to go to the truck to get the Short Pro Tool than it did to find the short.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VTP99 View Post
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    If you were a real tech, you'd solder a relay on that board and call it good to go.

    I do a triple evac with nitro to remove non condensables.

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    Everyone should have a short pro tool. Used mine 2 last week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 11crv View Post
    Everyone should have a short pro tool. Used mine 2 last week.


    Used mine today.
    Instead of learning the tricks of the trade, learn the trade.

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    So why doesn't everybody just watch for the large spark when you are jumping from red to the other connections? You can actually see the spark before the tool lights up. Only tool needed is a jumper and I have done it this way for nearly 30 years. I kinda think that the jumper is the real tool here.

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    I guess. If you have a pocket full of fuses.

    Then there are the intermittent problems, like with a wire rubbing through on a piece of metal. Just need a whole bunch of fuses.


    Quote Originally Posted by DOGBOY View Post
    So why doesn't everybody just watch for the large spark when you are jumping from red to the other connections? You can actually see the spark before the tool lights up. Only tool needed is a jumper and I have done it this way for nearly 30 years. I kinda think that the jumper is the real tool here.
    If you were a real tech, you'd solder a relay on that board and call it good to go.

    I do a triple evac with nitro to remove non condensables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBeerme View Post
    I guess. If you have a pocket full of fuses.

    Then there are the intermittent problems, like with a wire rubbing through on a piece of metal. Just need a whole bunch of fuses.
    Actually you do not connect the wire and leave it connected as that will short the transformer. I only briefly touch the wire to see if there is a spark. You can actually see it in one of the you tube video's I watched (as I have never heard of a short pro tool). here is a like to it and if ou watch at 2:45 to 2:50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZCXbQLgjaI you can see the spark. however I am sure you all have seen the spark already.
    Now with that said yes there are some shorts that are intermittent and those you actually have to look for, I had 2 this summer that took me over 1 hour to find on the same model different spots but both shorts were in the cooling circuit both going to the economizer and had to pull the top to find them, another only blew the fuse when it was morning and if there was a heavy dew as the wires outside were chaffed in a spot you could not see and the water actually made the path. Don't really see how that tool would have helped then.
    Now with all of that said I may blow 1 fuse occasionally as I will jump out the fuse and not keep replacing them. Now I do expect some negative remarks from that last sentence but a transformer will not pop in just 1 or 2 seconds of having a direct short.

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    Don't see why anyone would slam you for doing it old school. After all, there was a time we all had to do that.

    The short pro tool just makes things easier.

    Sort of like the difference of walking to work, or driving.


    Quote Originally Posted by DOGBOY View Post
    Actually you do not connect the wire and leave it connected as that will short the transformer. I only briefly touch the wire to see if there is a spark. You can actually see it in one of the you tube video's I watched (as I have never heard of a short pro tool). here is a like to it and if ou watch at 2:45 to 2:50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZCXbQLgjaI you can see the spark. however I am sure you all have seen the spark already.
    Now with that said yes there are some shorts that are intermittent and those you actually have to look for, I had 2 this summer that took me over 1 hour to find on the same model different spots but both shorts were in the cooling circuit both going to the economizer and had to pull the top to find them, another only blew the fuse when it was morning and if there was a heavy dew as the wires outside were chaffed in a spot you could not see and the water actually made the path. Don't really see how that tool would have helped then.
    Now with all of that said I may blow 1 fuse occasionally as I will jump out the fuse and not keep replacing them. Now I do expect some negative remarks from that last sentence but a transformer will not pop in just 1 or 2 seconds of having a direct short.
    If you were a real tech, you'd solder a relay on that board and call it good to go.

    I do a triple evac with nitro to remove non condensables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOGBOY View Post
    Now with all of that said I may blow 1 fuse occasionally as I will jump out the fuse and not keep replacing them. Now I do expect some negative remarks from that last sentence but a transformer will not pop in just 1 or 2 seconds of having a direct short.
    So there's no concern of frying the board ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VTP99 View Post
    So there's no concern of frying the board ?
    Somethings going to show / Blow up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by VTP99 View Post
    So there's no concern of frying the board ?
    Somethings going to show / Blow up!

    Did that with a fuse on my meter then forgot about it.......until i hit live power while on the Ohm setting. Display started to bubble!

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    Reminds me of a penny to replace a old glass fuse.

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    Sure something will BLOW UP but if a 3 amp fuse is bypassed the next in line is the transformer. The transformer (used to) will take 2 seconds or longer to BLOW UP. Surely no one will leave a wire (even a 24v wire) connected after they quickly touch it to the shorted circuit and see's the large/bright spark. And that quick touch is just long enough to see the large/bright spark only, not to BLOW UP the transformer or lord forbid a control board.

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