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    I think there's a lot of different opinions and viewpoints to take it and to see it from.

    There is a definite responsibility in the user but a lot of people consider the doctor the authority and if they tell you to do something, you do it because they are licensed and entrusted to troubleshoot you and figure out what you need. When they then turn around and over prescribe pills or prescribe pills that are dangerous, one might be foolish enough to take them without a second thought based on that trust.

    One could second guess the prescription and figure out what the drug is before consuming it, sure, so in that aspect you can look at it from many views.

    I am not trying to start some sort of war or anything, I just think it's a cool magazine with good articles and it seemed fitting here due to the OP's question.

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    I think the attitude about doctors and their authority went way with the onset of internet chat sites.

    For those who grew up with that idea and still believe it, those folks are at risk. Most opiate abusers are under 40. They have to be. Keith Richards is the only man I know older than I am who has survived opiate addiction.

    Seriously....is there a human over age 11 in this hemisphere that does not recognize the names of these drugs, and know that they are addictive? Really?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poodle Head Mikey View Post
    Drug cartel suppliers are terrorists to America. I would urge President Trump to adopt a simple three step process toward eliminating this threat to America and Americans.

    1. Deploy Recon units to pinpoint where they are operating
    2. Get Air Cav to play them some music to get their attention
    3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkH5Ak4wAnY
    Amen. I volunteer to fly the C130.
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    This is what we lack.

    (just skip ahead to 2:38)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COZPAa817xY

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    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    Amen. I volunteer to fly the C130.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poodle Head Mikey View Post
    This is what we lack.

    (just skip ahead to 2:38)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COZPAa817xY

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    It is the fear that if we are victorious, there are those that will still shame us. Because, those who would shame us have no shame.

    Fear is that enemy. Fear of shame.
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    No; it's not judgement which defeats us right now - rather it is lack of the ten divisions of such men. <g>

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    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    In this case, it is not judgement that defeats us.

    It is the fear that if we are victorious, there are those that will still shame us. Because, those who would shame us have no shame.

    Fear is that enemy. Fear of shame.
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    I think he should undergo rehabilitation again and I guess it is true that bad habits die hard. If his family can't help him anymore then there's a must a professional help.

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    Some years back I was supporting several family members with addiction . If you are in PA area you may have heard of Caron a treatment center. They have course which family member's are encouraged to take . where you are enlightened . The 3 C,s are taught . You did not Cause it... You can not Control it .. There is no CURE . With early Mortality as an outcome of addiction
    A multi disciplined approach to treatment involves Spiritual guidance from Father Bill a recovering alcoholic , and Reverend Jack a recovering addict. There Sunday morning chapel service over 2 hours and full to capacity , was enlightening , moving , drama, thoughtful, and at times showed failure as a family member would bring a loved one back in an urn to be scattered under the tree. I attended every Sunday for 6 months. Chapel and classes and courses that were ran helped family to understand and cope with there loved ones addiction . and relapse does happen . Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poodle Head Mikey View Post
    Drug cartel suppliers are terrorists to America. I would urge President Trump to adopt a simple three step process toward eliminating this threat to America and Americans
    The Gov is too large , even for the almighty Trump to straighten out , and he is most likely the Only person on earth who could do it , or even have the "want" to do it

    Its no secret there is ALOT of money being funneled into the Gov hands from Cartels , and ALOT of bad apples accepting it …

    Its been going on for decades , and until the human being somehow loses the desire for the coveted Dolla Bill , it will never stop

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    Well; I am willing to fail to gain an objective, if necessary, in order to ultimately advance. Let's just try some overwhelming force take-outs on the drug maker's workshops, houses, and other facilities and see how it goes. If in a year we are no further ahead then we can re-examine the strategy. What we have done far is clearly not advancing well - so let's pivot and see what else can be accomplish with an alternate approach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snapperhead View Post
    The Gov is too large , even for the almighty Trump to straighten out , and he is most likely the Only person on earth who could do it , or even have the "want" to do it

    Its no secret there is ALOT of money being funneled into the Gov hands from Cartels , and ALOT of bad apples accepting it …

    Its been going on for decades , and until the human being somehow loses the desire for the coveted Dolla Bill , it will never stop
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    We already have small armies of people who create there own militias , and the name of what they are called escapes me right now … but they fight crime by volunteering

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snapperhead View Post
    We already have small armies of people who create there own militias , and the name of what they are called escapes me right now … but they fight crime by volunteering
    The guardian angels?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poodle Head Mikey View Post
    Drug cartel suppliers are terrorists to America. I would urge President Trump to adopt a simple three step process toward eliminating this threat to America and Americans.

    1. Deploy Recon units to pinpoint where they are operating
    2. Get Air Cav to play them some music to get their attention
    3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkH5Ak4wAnY
    I Absolutely Believe that America should destroy the "Source" of the Drugs, due to the fact that the Nations where these Drug Cartels operate, will not act against them.

    I also believe that America should fortify it's borders, in order to stop the "Drug Trade", "Illegal Immigration", & "Terrorists".

    But, ... Since Our Leadership, consists of both Republicans & Democrats, .... That's not gonna happen.
    Hos 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you may be no priest to me. Because you have forgotten your God’s law, I will also forget your children.


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