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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidDeBord View Post
    Mo post #20, & Pec post #21 are both Correct, in My Belief.

    Physical Action needs to be carried out, by the American Government, in stopping the Distribution of the Drugs, as well as the Manufacture of them.

    If America fully cut off $$$ given to the Nations that Allowed the Drug labs to operate, as well as the Poppy & Pot fields, ... those Nations just might stop them, BUT, ..... If America began making Military Surgical Strikes against those Labs, Distribution Centers, & the Leaders of these Drug gangs/ Narco-nations, .... I Believe that over a period of a year, that the Drug Trade would slow to a Trickle.

    America also needs to Seal it's borders to Stop the Drug trade, as well as Terrorists, but , ... I Believe that it would be accomplished quicker, with Barbed Wire, Mine Fields, & Border Guards that were instructed to Fire Upon any that made it through the Wire & Mines.

    As far as "Big Pharma" & Doctors/ Clinics that hand out Opioids like they are candy? Take their $$$ & Property, & Then Publicly Hang them.
    I deal with back and leg pain everyday, like many people here and everywhere. Just this week I was at my pain doctors office for an injection in my back. His PA asked me was I on any pain medication? I told her that I only use naproxen and deal with it. She looked at me with a strange face. I told her that 1) I don't like the way opioids make me feel, 2) they really don't help my pain and 3) I am scared of them because I have seen the destruction they can cause.

    I guess she was used to people begging for pain meds and was a bit surprised by my response.

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    After my heart surgery I was givin 250 OxyContin and told up to 4 a day. Believe me the numbed all pain. I was taking 1/4 tabs every 6-8 hrs and slowly backed off had 1/2 a bottle left and 2 refills allowed.

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    Some people smoke mary jane instead to fight off pain. They should legalize mj.

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    In our trade, medical MJ makes you a bad risk. I would expect you to be uninsurable.
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    We had a young guy working for us with some past heroin problems. He was “over” his addiction. I asked him why one day about, and he said it was an unbeleavable pleasure when the juice hit your bloodstream. Dang good kid, who unfortunately fell off the wagon.

    To the opening poster, I hope your man can overcome his addiction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mofotech View Post
    Some people smoke mary jane instead to fight off pain. They should legalize mj.
    Legalizing it will backfire.

    My shop is a stones throw from probably the biggest medical marijuana store in the us. They haven't carried medical marijuana (CBD) since it was legalized....just recreational (THC) pot. It's a farmers market and they'll grow what sells the best and has the highest yield. The growers dictate what's available.

    Personally, I'm addicted to my snooze bar. It's an hour or more every day "making deals with myself" before I can get out of bed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by btuhack View Post
    Legalizing it will backfire.

    My shop is a stones throw from probably the biggest medical marijuana store in the us. They haven't carried medical marijuana (CBD) since it was legalized....just recreational (THC) pot. It's a farmers market and they'll grow what sells the best and has the highest yield. The growers dictate what's available.

    Personally, I'm addicted to my snooze bar. It's an hour or more every day "making deals with myself" before I can get out of bed.
    Legalizing will flood the market of weed thus killing drug dealers share of market. It will help bring in alot of revenue. People who smoke will smoke regardless its legal or not. There is alot of medical benefits for those why need it.

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    Read somewhere a few years back that the recidivism rate for addicts who go to rehab clinics is around 94-95%. The only thing that that had a substantially lower recidivism rate was 6 months in jail. Addicts who did this had a recidivism rate around 50%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Space Racer View Post
    Read somewhere a few years back that the recidivism rate for addicts who go to rehab clinics is around 94-95%. The only thing that that had a substantially lower recidivism rate was 6 months in jail. Addicts who did this had a recidivism rate around 50%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fender60 View Post
    I deal with back and leg pain everyday, like many people here and everywhere. Just this week I was at my pain doctors office for an injection in my back. His PA asked me was I on any pain medication? I told her that I only use naproxen and deal with it. She looked at me with a strange face. I told her that 1) I don't like the way opioids make me feel, 2) they really don't help my pain and 3) I am scared of them because I have seen the destruction they can cause.

    I guess she was used to people begging for pain meds and was a bit surprised by my response.
    Pain Killers, when prescribed, .... Rarely worked, & drug me down.

    When in Bad Pain, I also use Naproxen (Off th' Shelf), ... "if" Herbs won't handle the pain.

    As far as this Drug Epidemic, ... I see the results of it even out here in the Country. SMH

    America is going Downhill Big Time, in many ways, & the Secular/ Government/ Corporate Solutions are failing to Stop It.
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    Ive lost so many people that I was friends with along with relatives the struggles they went through unbelievably hard To overcome you need to check into a treatment before its too late The body depends The body depends on on it so much that overwhelms you

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    For all of you guys who have friends and family who are in this situation, I can recommend this

    https://www.narconon.org/

    From what I've seen, the stories I've heard and from what I personally know, its success rate is very high and it works.

    All the information on how it works and what it does is on their website, they got facilities all over the US.

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    The first requirement is that the addict has to be willing to stop using. There are other pharmaceuticals that can help the person with the withdrawal symptoms and act as a withdrawal suppressant so that they can continue to function and learn how to overcome their addiction. But, that first requirement is actual, personal desire.

    If someone wishes to maintain the experience of that pleasure when it hits your bloodstream, then there is literally no hope for them to overcome it. It's a strong desire that you must meet with an even stronger desire, and you must intellectually understand that true joy does not come from any drug.
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