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    He needs to want to stay clean for himself, not for others.

    He also needs to get a way from his "so called" friends. Which can mean he may need to move a way from hid parents, and the ex and children. And only visit them once in a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beenthere View Post
    He needs to want to stay clean for himself, not for others.

    He also needs to get a way from his "so called" friends. Which can mean he may need to move a way from hid parents, and the ex and children. And only visit them once in a while.
    This is so true. He can't stay in contact with other active addicts. The temptation of their activity seems familiar, friendly, and represents pleasure. He must disown every one of them.

    Many addicts report that they needed something larger than themselves from which to draw strength. This is why programs such as AA have been successful.

    Here is a program we run at our church. You can find a chapter near you, or something similar. We are weak. He is strong.

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    Military or get him away from his surroundings or get him into a controlled environment....

    It sucks because trying to save someone you may just destroy yourself in the process
    wHen I diE I hOpe gOd haS mErcy oN my SiNful LifE

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    Quote Originally Posted by mofotech View Post
    Military or get him away from his surroundings or get him into a controlled environment....

    It sucks because trying to save someone you may just destroy yourself in the process
    Negative on the military! The last thing anybody wants or needs in uniform is a drug user. The military is not a form of rehab!

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    Doctors may say addiction can be cured but I think they don't know squat on this. I had a cousin that died at about 24 on the streets of Dallas homeless but had a trust fund he couldn't touch until clean for several years that had millions. In & out of private rehab since about 14.
    Addictive drugs are the biggest social problem facing us today, imho

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldguy1949 View Post
    I had a cousin that died at about 24 on the streets of Dallas homeless but had a trust fund he couldn't touch until clean for several years that had millions.
    Well if that's not a good enough reason to get clean , then its just not going to happen

    That's crazy

    " here buddy , you can count it later but I think its a cool mil , and its all yours if you stay clean"

    Nawww fu#$% that

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldguy1949 View Post
    Doctors may say addiction can be cured but I think they don't know squat on this. I had a cousin that died at about 24 on the streets of Dallas homeless but had a trust fund he couldn't touch until clean for several years that had millions. In & out of private rehab since about 14.
    Addictive drugs are the biggest social problem facing us today, imho
    It's just sad. Maybe President Trump needs to do something like the movie 'Clear and Present Danger' . Hit the drug cartels where it hurts. Invest billions of dollars in ATF. And ya I know its going to hurt people and their civil rights... But raid the shit out of every single drug infested hood in America... Only way to flush out the drug dealers that effect common people. Then go after the rich people's drug dealers. Also we have some crooked people on the top that allow some of these drugs into the US. No way a country this powerful cant fight back the drug war. Also the drug companies need to do a better job...better yet the FDA needs to come up with better way to monitor prescription drugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mofotech View Post
    It's just sad. Maybe President Trump needs to do something like the movie 'Clear and Present Danger' . Hit the drug cartels where it hurts. Invest billions of dollars in ATF. And ya I know its going to hurt people and their civil rights... But raid the shit out of every single drug infested hood in America... Only way to flush out the drug dealers that effect common people. Then go after the rich people's drug dealers. Also we have some crooked people on he drug companies need to do a better job...better yet the FDA needs to come up with better way to monitor prescription drugs.
    Sorry MoFo but this crises is home grown.

    oxycodone: Synthetic Heroin, Dr's have been handing it out like candy with no one watching. Very Cheep and Very Addictive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snapperhead View Post
    Whats kind of alarming is he lost about 30 pounds since I seen him last , now skinny as a twig

    We have to figure out something

    I will ask his mom about the meetings

    I know a alcoholic who hasn't drank in 3 years , and what he did was turn to the Bible , which absolutely drives us all NUTS because that's all he talk about now … but no more drinking
    Boiled Down, .... Turning to Our Creator, is The Answer Snapper.

    I "Flipped Out" on Acid, Pot, Coke, & more, back in the early 70s, .... My Rear-end was quickly locked up in Drug Rehab, & I was being given Thorazine to counteract the "Flashbacks", but that failed.

    A group of "Jesus Freaks", that had been prior "Druggers", came in to the hospital, & began "Witnessing" of The Messiah, as well as speaking of their prior experiences with Acid, Heroin, Coke, etc.

    I Can not fully explain it, but, ..... I Listened, & something happened deep down inside of me, & where the Doctors were looking at Committing me to an Institution, .......overnight, while Reading the Bible, I began to Recover.

    In My Belief, .... I'd try a "Faith Based" Rehab group, for Your Family Member, & judging from what you have posted, .... What do Ya'll have to lose?

    As far as the chance that he might begin to "Drive Ya'll Nuts" Speaking about The Bible?

    Brother, .... This World is so Sick Right now, .... Millions need to Hear The Truth of The Way, & not this "Name it & Claim it" Crap, as well as the many other False Teachings of Man's Religions.

    If One ponders on it, .... This Drug Epidemic is a "Sign" of how far We have Fallen, & in my Belief, We haven't reached the Bottom yet.
    Hos 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you may be no priest to me. Because you have forgotten your God’s law, I will also forget your children.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Madera View Post
    The only real hope for change in a life is a one-on-one daily walk with the Creator God. HIS strength is sufficient if you avail yourself of it.

    How do you get to God? Through the expression of His love, Jesus. Jesus said come unto me all you who are weak and I will give you rest. Hard part is giving up self and selfish desires. To face daily the onslaught of temptations knowing that HE is able to preserve and protect.

    No flaming please..... You did ask the question. I am providing the real answer.
    Hos 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you may be no priest to me. Because you have forgotten your God’s law, I will also forget your children.


    "You've got to Stand for Something or You'll fall for anything" (A. Tippin)


    Mat_15:24 But he answered, “I wasn’t sent to anyone but the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    This is so true. He can't stay in contact with other active addicts. The temptation of their activity seems familiar, friendly, and represents pleasure. He must disown every one of them.

    Many addicts report that they needed something larger than themselves from which to draw strength. This is why programs such as AA have been successful.

    Here is a program we run at our church. You can find a chapter near you, or something similar. We are weak. He is strong.

    https://rurecovery.com/
    Hos 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you may be no priest to me. Because you have forgotten your God’s law, I will also forget your children.


    "You've got to Stand for Something or You'll fall for anything" (A. Tippin)


    Mat_15:24 But he answered, “I wasn’t sent to anyone but the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

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    Mo post #20, & Pec post #21 are both Correct, in My Belief.

    Physical Action needs to be carried out, by the American Government, in stopping the Distribution of the Drugs, as well as the Manufacture of them.

    If America fully cut off $$$ given to the Nations that Allowed the Drug labs to operate, as well as the Poppy & Pot fields, ... those Nations just might stop them, BUT, ..... If America began making Military Surgical Strikes against those Labs, Distribution Centers, & the Leaders of these Drug gangs/ Narco-nations, .... I Believe that over a period of a year, that the Drug Trade would slow to a Trickle.

    America also needs to Seal it's borders to Stop the Drug trade, as well as Terrorists, but , ... I Believe that it would be accomplished quicker, with Barbed Wire, Mine Fields, & Border Guards that were instructed to Fire Upon any that made it through the Wire & Mines.

    As far as "Big Pharma" & Doctors/ Clinics that hand out Opioids like they are candy? Take their $$$ & Property, & Then Publicly Hang them.
    Hos 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you may be no priest to me. Because you have forgotten your God’s law, I will also forget your children.


    "You've got to Stand for Something or You'll fall for anything" (A. Tippin)


    Mat_15:24 But he answered, “I wasn’t sent to anyone but the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldguy1949 View Post
    Doctors may say addiction can be cured but I think they don't know squat on this. I had a cousin that died at about 24 on the streets of Dallas homeless but had a trust fund he couldn't touch until clean for several years that had millions. In & out of private rehab since about 14.
    Addictive drugs are the biggest social problem facing us today, imho
    I tend to agree that addiction cannot be cured but it can be overcome or I should say managed. The struggle is real and has to be dealt with daily but addicts can overcome their addiction and lead productive lives. I have a good friend that has been sober for 23yrs and my dad has been sober for over 30.

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