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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian8383 View Post
    He wants to hop on another crazy train heading in another direction.

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    Hos 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you may be no priest to me. Because you have forgotten your God’s law, I will also forget your children.


    "You've got to Stand for Something or You'll fall for anything" (A. Tippin)


    Mat_15:24 But he answered, “I wasn’t sent to anyone but the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by newoldtech View Post
    I had a feeling I'd hear that from you and maybe others about owning actual physical gold. I have the ETF as just a bit of a hedge, if the world goes to crap then not having any physical gold will probably be low on my list of priorities. I'm not the kind of guy that is going to be living in the woods paying for gasoline or other things with gold. I'm also normally a pretty conservative investor, most of what I have is in Bank CD's and fixed annuities. Also some in a middle of the road Vanguard Stock fund, If that all crashed, I imagine the world won't be a very good place to be living in any way. I know you like a little Metal and Armageddon.....So enjoy............



    That's ROCK Brother. I've got that Album I think,... somewhere near my Flatts & Scruggs, Handel, AC-DC, & Third Day.

    And True, ... What's Building up on Our Horizon, is going to make the World a Rough Place to live in.
    Hos 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you may be no priest to me. Because you have forgotten your God’s law, I will also forget your children.


    "You've got to Stand for Something or You'll fall for anything" (A. Tippin)


    Mat_15:24 But he answered, “I wasn’t sent to anyone but the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by newoldtech View Post
    David , one thing I agree a 100% with you is the world would have been much better off if we didn’t overthrow Saddam Hussein, which was unnecessary and has caused endless problems in the Middle East. I knew it was a terrible idea then , it has turned out even worse than imagined. I will always consider George W Bush as the worst president ever for costing America countless billions, maybe even trillions of dollars, and the lives of thousands of American soldiers.


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    I missed this post Newold, & I Absolutely Agree.
    Hos 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you may be no priest to me. Because you have forgotten your God’s law, I will also forget your children.


    "You've got to Stand for Something or You'll fall for anything" (A. Tippin)


    Mat_15:24 But he answered, “I wasn’t sent to anyone but the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

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    A Land Without Truth

    America: A Land Without Truth

    Paul Craig Roberts

    It has been 17 days since a four-year study of the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 by civil engineers was made available to the media. The study concluded that fire was not the cause of the collapse of the 47-story building. The study also concluded that “the collapse of WTC 7 was a global failure involving the near-simultaneous failure of every column in the building.” https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/201...lies-in-ruins/

    In other words, the study concludes that the building was intentionally destroyed by controlled demolition. Controlled demolition means that there was a plan to destroy the building and that access to the building inhabited by a number of US security agencies was permitted in order to wire the building for demolition. This finding is consistent with what the owner of the World Trade Center, Silverstein, said on television, that the decision was made “to pull” the building.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlE8iIa5OUs

    To pull a building means to bring it down by controlled demolition. Later, Silverstein tried to retract his admission and claimed that he meant the decision was made to pull the firemen out of the building, but according to reports no firemen were in the building as the fires were not regarded as of any consequence.

    After 17 days, the report of the civil engineering team remains unmentioned in the American media except for a local Alaska TV station and a local Alaska newspaper. The report went straight into the Memory Hole. The vast majority of the American people will never know that the information has been kept from them.

    The pile of lies that constitutes American awareness is very high. Indeed, it is as high as the hundred-story twin towers: the lies about Gaddafi and Libya, Saddam Hussein’s “weapons of mass destruction,” “Assad’s use of chemical weapons,” the Taliban, Osama bin Laden, Yemen, Pakistan, China, Russian invasions, World War II, World War I, Vietnam War, overthrows of Latin American governments, Ukraine, Spanish/American war, and on, and on.

    All of these lies have been exposed, but the facts have been kept from the vast majority of Americans. Historians such as Howard Zinn in his book, A People’s History of the United States, and Oliver Stone and Peter Kuznick in their book, The Untold History of the United States, attempted to make Americans more aware of the false reality in which they live, but the small number of voices on the side of truth are simply overwhelmed by a massive propaganda machine.

    The reason for the dim future that the United States faces is that explanations are controlled by elites in the interest of their agendas. There is no independent media except on the Internet, and that media is being overwhelmed by the numerous elite-sponsored websites.

    Many Americans are too mentally and emotionally weak to come to grips with the possibility that the events of September 11, 2001, were a false flag attack orchestrated in order to serve agendas hidden from the American people. They are much more comfortable not to look at the evidence and simply dismiss it as a “conspiracy theory.”

    The families of those killed in the twin towers made a stink about the unexplained total failure of US national security. No one was held accountable for the amazing security breaches and dysfunction of the national security state. Washington tried to buy off the families with money, but only partially succeeded. The “Jersey Girls” helped to rally impacted families. After one year of stonewalling their demands for an investigation, the White House finally agreed to a political investigation and appointed the 9/11 Commission, which avoided a forensic investigation.

    In contrast to the families who lost members in the twin towers, I have never heard anything about a similar organization of families of those who died in the hijacked airliners. Perhaps they are included in the 9/11 Family Steering Committee. If so, they must have been silent members. I have not come across any sign of them demanding explanations. It is almost as if they don’t exist.

    Those who know that they have been lied to about Septermer 11, 2001, are still trying to get truthful answers. A report on their latest efforts can be found here: https://www.globalresearch.ca/911-tr...ttacks/5689203
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    Give us a break.
    Worry is a really gross misuse of one's imagination. -- PHM

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidDeBord View Post
    Keep your eyes & ears open Newold,..... I'm thinking that it's going to get Real Interesting over the next 5 to ten days.
    So now it's been 7 days. What is supposed to be happening?
    Worry is a really gross misuse of one's imagination. -- PHM

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    History shows that the simplest explanation of a thing is usually closest to the truth.

    Some Muslim extremists flew planes into buildings is what happened.

    You like to compare this to Hitler and everything he got by with. He simply was charismatic and convincing and evil. Got himself a country and turned it into a police state and once he could control the flow of information he got by with anything. That's the simple explanation.

    There was no free speech, no platforms where people could criticize their government. We have an amazing freedom of sharing information in the 21st century with large numbers of people so there is no way to compare this to Hitlers government. This is why we doubt your sanity, there is simply no comparisons between the USA and Germany of the 30s and 40s.
    Worry is a really gross misuse of one's imagination. -- PHM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck View Post
    So now it's been 7 days. What is supposed to be happening?
    We/America, quite possibly are preparing to at least carry out "Surgical Strikes" against Iran, which, I Believe will quickly grow in to a greater conflict from there. What is described as a "Moderate Troop Buildup" to Saudi Arabia, & the UAE is ongoing, & Fox News Sunday is speaking of this right now.

    The American Economy is boiling, & there are many Economists, Investment Bankers, Financial Institutions, etc., that are stating that a Recession, at the least is soon to occur.
    Hos 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you may be no priest to me. Because you have forgotten your God’s law, I will also forget your children.


    "You've got to Stand for Something or You'll fall for anything" (A. Tippin)


    Mat_15:24 But he answered, “I wasn’t sent to anyone but the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

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    Somehow, I think it is likely that we will be trading ordnance with China in the not too distant future.
    If you were a real tech, you'd solder a relay on that board and call it good to go.

    I do a triple evac with nitro to remove non condensables.

    I use 56% silver on everything except steel.

    Did you really need the " If you were a real tech " ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBeerme View Post
    Somehow, I think it is likely that we will be trading ordnance with China in the not too distant future.
    And I Absolutely Agree BB.

    Behind the News, given to the Public by the "Talking Heads",... There are Military Leaders sniping at each other about what they're gonna do to each other's Military.

    Worse yet,... China is stating that they are going to send Naval Forces to the Persian Gulf to escort Oil Tankers fro Iran, & Saudi Arabia, back to China.

    Will this loose "Coalition" that the Trump Administration is putting together to "Protect Tankers", also enforce the Sanctions/ Tariffs that the American Government has put on Iran?

    America, already has it's hands full, fighting this Never Ending & Undeclared War on Terrorism,..... Can We afford to start shooting at Chinese Naval Vessels that are forcefully escorting Iranian Tankers of Oil, back to China?

    The World, In My Belief, is going Nucking Futs, in many ways, & it's Past Time/Long Over Due for PEACE to become a Zealously sought after Virtue, by Our & The World's Leaders.
    Hos 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you may be no priest to me. Because you have forgotten your God’s law, I will also forget your children.


    "You've got to Stand for Something or You'll fall for anything" (A. Tippin)


    Mat_15:24 But he answered, “I wasn’t sent to anyone but the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

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    The problem with your closing statement is that the various world leaders have different visions of peace than we do.


    Quote Originally Posted by DavidDeBord View Post
    And I Absolutely Agree BB.

    Behind the News, given to the Public by the "Talking Heads",... There are Military Leaders sniping at each other about what they're gonna do to each other's Military.

    Worse yet,... China is stating that they are going to send Naval Forces to the Persian Gulf to escort Oil Tankers fro Iran, & Saudi Arabia, back to China.

    Will this loose "Coalition" that the Trump Administration is putting together to "Protect Tankers", also enforce the Sanctions/ Tariffs that the American Government has put on Iran?

    America, already has it's hands full, fighting this Never Ending & Undeclared War on Terrorism,..... Can We afford to start shooting at Chinese Naval Vessels that are forcefully escorting Iranian Tankers of Oil, back to China?

    The World, In My Belief, is going Nucking Futs, in many ways, & it's Past Time/Long Over Due for PEACE to become a Zealously sought after Virtue, by Our & The World's Leaders.
    If you were a real tech, you'd solder a relay on that board and call it good to go.

    I do a triple evac with nitro to remove non condensables.

    I use 56% silver on everything except steel.

    Did you really need the " If you were a real tech " ??

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    I do not think China is going to be the one the USA takes down...
    Neither Russia...

    This is about gutting terrorism...
    And Iran is/was the heart of funding terrorism.

    Yeah, SA did, and so did others...
    However Iran is currently the heart...

    Take them down, and the rest will slow down and re-group.

    While I seriously wish we could stamp out terrorism once and for all...
    IMO that will not happen until Christ comes again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBeerme View Post
    The problem with your closing statement is that the various world leaders have different visions of peace than we do.
    True, ... Some Believe that "Peace" is obtained by the barrel of a gun.

    Some Believe that only Communism can bring "Peace".

    Some Believe that only Islam can bring "Peace".

    And, ... Many, in a very Orwellian Way, believe that "Peace is War".
    Hos 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you may be no priest to me. Because you have forgotten your God’s law, I will also forget your children.


    "You've got to Stand for Something or You'll fall for anything" (A. Tippin)


    Mat_15:24 But he answered, “I wasn’t sent to anyone but the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

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