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    Quote Originally Posted by Hauptmann6 View Post
    Alot of old basements(generally from the 1940s and before) here are NEVER truly dry. They always have alot of moisture coming up through. Doesn't hurt the furnace/WH as long as it's isolated. We refer to them as Michigan basements.
    I understand what You are saying Haupt.

    Down here in S.W. Ohio, I've seen many basements, that had "basement water proofing systems" that literally channeled water to a sump pump, installed along the walls, made out of Concrete & Bricks, or other materials.

    Problem is, they did nothing for the water welling up through the floor, & many times this moisture was pulled up in to the furnace/ A.H.

    On each of those Installs, I specifically addressed the "Moisture Problems", & advised the H.O., to contact a Professional, & correct the problem.
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    Nice install! Did you miss on your first 2 attempts at locating your line set hole and come out through the siding?
    Just kidding. I would add a bead of caulk across the top and down the sides of the disconnect. If water gets behind there and into your screw/anchor holes and freezes it can loosed up your screws/anchors and the next time you pull out the disconnect, you yank the whole thing off the wall.

    You obviously take great pride in your work. And rightly so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doc havoc View Post
    Nice install! Did you miss on your first 2 attempts at locating your line set hole and come out through the siding?
    Just kidding. I would add a bead of caulk across the top and down the sides of the disconnect. If water gets behind there and into your screw/anchor holes and freezes it can loosed up your screws/anchors and the next time you pull out the disconnect, you yank the whole thing off the wall.

    You obviously take great pride in your work. And rightly so.
    As you may have guessed, those holes were present before I arrived, that would be pretty sad. Thanks for the laugh cause it looks exactly as you said. I will keep the disconnect in mind. Thank you.

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    Beautiful Work! You took your time on that baby!
    How long does a job like that take? My residential guys would take about 3-4 days
    Whats the ballpark invoice on a project like this? Last one we did with a standard water heater, furnace and air was around $24,000. We are in Detroit/Ohio. We do a few residential jobs but mainly commercial.

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    why did you replace that rheem vanguard water heater those are known for lasting many years ao smith not so much

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    That is a great looking installation. You should be justifiably proud.
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    The toughest part about running or opening a new biz was setting prices and not being the "bad" guy. I would see quotes 2 to 3 times higher then mine and say jeez I can make a couple of bucks and still charge half! NOPE the reason the other quotes where higher and because I was not confident in my own price was because the other companies wanted to GROW!!! I got myself into trouble, couldnt grow, couldnt meet customers expectations, couldnt do good work because I was stuck in the oasis of cheap..... What is your GPM? I dont get half the work I used to get 3 years ago because my prices are set... But I do get better work, better customers and am able to pay the bills... ON TIME!!!! 3 years ago I was stuck in the friend zone... I had lots of "friends" but I lost hours I could have spent with my family basically making friends and not making money. Avoid the friend zone. Dont be popular because you were the cheapest bid!!! People will spread your companies name by the simple fact you wont charge over you took the extra 2 hours to make it look beautiful.
    There is a guy on youtube... HVAC millionaire... He breaks down how to charge. I dont know if you do or not? I just dont want to see another young company start off like I did. It has been four years and I am still paying for mistakes I made in the past.
    Time & Material is hard to charge in the private sector in Michigan. Flat rate is king. Do you have books made to give your customers a immediate quote? If you take your work "home" spend 3 hours dropping a design and block load without the go ahead for the job, you are a fool! I give them a general quote. If it goes through then the design and load are made.
    Sorry just adding my 2 cents from hard experience and customer loss. Thanks.

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